I think you’re not following the conversation you replied to dude. We’re literally debating based on the assumption that Green improves his 3PT% by 4. You’re right it’s 37.2% and 3.5 assists that’s a brain fart from me. The point still holds. I’m not picking Markannen just because he’s 2% better from 3. The most important shot in basketball is driving to the rim and Markkanen has no chance in hell of being as good or improving anymore at that. He has no chance of becoming a guy who averages 4-5 assists as Green is almost certainly going to end up doing. Those advanced data points are based on these previous data points, they will not hold the same if Green goes from terrible shooter to excellent shooter (at 7+ attempts). You’re saying Markkanen averaged more XYZ comparing to last season Jalen. We’re not talking about last season Jalen. We’re talking about a much better next season Green who’s team is also now winning more games because of it. New VORP, BPM, WS. The idea here is all that stuff will have improved and we’re guessing by how much. You seem to think Green hitting 37.2% of his 3’s on 7 attempts would have little to no impact on metrics. That’s not a reasonable position.
Hell No. For 55 nights out of the season, he has to make 2 or 3 more. On the other 27 nights a year, anything more is a bonus. 55 games .333 or worse. Many of those .000-.250.
Back to Markkanen: I like the player but don't think he's worth spending assets on by this Rockets team, not when you have Jabari who should continue to improve as a shooter and eventually be in the same ballpark as Markkanen while being a far better defender.
Jalen Green 2023-24 Game Log | Basketball-Reference.com 12 games he shot .000 1 game .100 (1-10) 2 games .143 (1-7) 5 games .167 (1-6) 1 games .182 (2-11) 4 games .200 (1-5) 6 games .222 (2-9) 1 games .231 (2-13) 6 games .250 (2-8x3 and 1-4x3) 4 games .286 (2-7) 1 game .300 (3-10) 9 games .333 (4-12x2, 2-6x5, 1-3x1, 3-9x1)
[m Not sure what this debate is about and why yall so focused on shooting. Mark was a good player his first 3 years. Not great not very good just good. He didn’t come close to accomplishing what Green did his first 3 years. Besides they play different positions. Mark isn’t a playmaker as he is a scoring 4. I have yet to see any observation and analysis on how they actually play on the court backed with knowledge and why their overall player value reflects on court performance. Until then advanced metrics only tell part of the story.
I'm not for Lauri just because he's a solid tier 3 star (of a contender) that will cost that of a tier 1 or tier 2 star price. That said, the lack of career assist seems inconsquential as he's a 7-footer PF. Even in a postionless world, he wasn't a guard. The team's offense didn't run through him especially in his early career. Even later on the Cavs, it was Sexton and Garland who had the ball and assist duty.
Danny (fallen)Ainge(l) cannot enter a trade discussion looking for a win - win deal. It’s ‘I win, you the sucka!’
Sure, and if Sengun hit just one more 3 per game, he would shoot 83% Of course, there's a reason why making statements like that is incredibly stupid, but you probably knew that. Your favorite draft bust is still embarrassingly bad at shooting a basketball and Sengun has no real shot from 3.
This was my hope for the type of player Jabari would become when he was drafted. Though, I'm not sure if Jabari can make the leap in efficiency and usage that Lauri has. My biggest concern with acquiring Lauri would be whether the internal growth would be fast enough to take advantage of FVV and Lauri. I think Sengun and Amen are the best two of the young players (Green if March wasn't a fluke and Reed possibly could change this). If Sengun and Amen are going to work, one of them will likely need a ton of improvement at the 3pt line or the Rockets will need multiple deadeye shooters like Lauri and Reed.
He don’t play no D. It’s not just one on one on ball defense. Awareness not good. Like not switching when he is supposed to or not picking up the roll man etc. Awareness just not at a high level. Why u think he bounce around so much?
Jabari may never be quite as good on offense (it’s debatable). Lauri will never be as good as Jabari on defense and is 5 years older. Any trade of Jabari for Lauri is stupid. Not even straight up.
Correct, Ainge isn't stupid enough to trade Lauri straight up for Jabari despite Lauri being 5 years older.
