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Young Players Who Might Sign For The Minimum

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by smoothie, Jul 3, 2009.

  1. W22_STREAK

    W22_STREAK Member

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    well yeah we'll just tell sean may to lose 100 kgs so he can be faster than yao ming
     
  2. asianballa23

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    a couple of facinations that's getting on my nerves, mcdyess and rebuilding.
    last time i checked, mcdyess' a 6'9 AGING power forward, and yes we got quite a few of those already.
    and please, stop using the word rebuild, that's like a lame excuse to have a losing team.
    I dont mind getting sheed, just cause some idiots are labeling the rockets as "rebuilding", dont mean we cant add a physical presence especially at the 5. Unfortunately, sheed's goin to either beantown or SA, and we cant afford his ass anyway.
     
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    JOEY GRAHAM

    ATHLETIC FREAK. POTENTIAL LOCKDOWN DEFENDER
     
  4. Aruba77

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    What do y'all think the the chances are of landing Swift or Sheldon Williams for a minimum contract?
     
  5. Aruba77

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    W22_STREAK

    btw: I think Lowry is our future starting pg as well. For some reason, Brooks gets most of the attention on this board, but if you really watch Lowry, he has all the makings of a solid pg.
     
  6. giggity12345

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    We should try to sign Marvin Williams, If Atlanta is going to match no matter what, we should try to trade Battier straight up for him. Our lineup would be young and would have tons of potential, Williams numbers have gotten better every year and we would have serious length at the 2 and 3 with Ariza starting at the 2. The only thing that could go wrong here is Jermaine Taylor proving he is a Wade type player, then we'd have to make a trade or Marvin Williams would have to be a super sub because Ariza didn't sign here to play off the bench.
     
  7. giggity12345

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    Swift has torn so many ligaments in his knees that I would just stay away.
     
  8. giggity12345

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    Shelden Williams would be a good upgrade to Chuck Hayes size wise, being listed at 6'9 and 6'6 respectively.
     
  9. deekay209

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    So we are sacrificing skill for size now?
     
  10. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    i dont think rebuilding is an excuse for losing. i think losing is a reason for rebuilding.

    i'd rather use roster spots on young players who can develop, rather than aging band-aid solutions.

    i agree that we need a center, but the priority has to be to find the best young talent we can and not the tallest players we can regardless of age. sheed won't get us to the playoffs this season. the rockets are planning for the future now. they showed it by offering ron 1 year and ariza 5. label it anything you want if you think rebuilding is an unfitting term. "getting younger" "planning for the future", etc... but "win-now" is over, and so is the rockets interest in older players.
     
  11. Alvin Choo

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    Why I think Rox will be interested in either? They are good players that could still contribute and they will come cheap.

    Why I think they will be interested? Mcdyess have said that he wants to return to Houston, while Wallace is just a name that came as an afterthought.

    Rebuild or not, veterans that is willing to play at the min is always a good addition to a team. And I still think that Rox will be a contender as Yao will return and Tmac will either return and play good ball or be traded for another good baller.

    Last time I checked, Rox's current roster only contain 1 PF nearing 30. And rox have no center. A position that mcdyess actually plays for Detroit Pistons.
     
  12. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    without yao returning i think the rockets lose all interest in any player over the age of 30. probably even over the age of 27. they showed this by offering ron a one year deal, but ariza 5 years.
     
  13. W22_STREAK

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    Its a great direction by the Rockets. Signing good vets to deals now will only destroy our 2010 cap space. Its really good how we're preparing for the long term. Signing vets now will only mean we'll end up with a record thats not good enough to get a good playoff seed and not bad enough to get a high draft pick.

    TANK THE SEASON.
     
  14. Fierguard

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    Ariza is 24 so even after 5 years he is under 30. I do not like the length of the contract but I think with the right other moves it will be solid.

    I like the idea of swift, Petro, or even frye.... do we have the roster space for that?

    I can not wait for the summer league to start seeing what we got in the draft.
     
  15. rocket1710

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    hey guys what do you think about bringing in carlos arroyo to backup brooks? we would have more trade assets to trade for a center... he would be a solid back-up thoughts?? :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zekImX_4pk0
     
  16. smoothie

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    yes! common sense!
     
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    Agreed with Smoothie and W22_ ......
     
  18. BimaThug

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    I've gotta respectfully disagree with W22 and smoothie (both of whom have made their usual intelligent arguments) on this one.

    As little talent as it appears they will have available, a team comprised of Shane Battier, Luis Scola, Aaron Brooks, Carl Landry, Kyle Lowry, Chuck Hayes and a partial season of a health(ier) Tracy McGrady and being coached by Rick Adelman WILL NOT finish with one of the league's worst records. It just won't happen. Sure, they'll be significantly worse over an 82-game regular season. They probably miss the playoffs entirely (I'm giving that team about a 35% chance of making the playoffs, though). But they will most likely end up picking in the 12-14 range in the 2010 NBA Draft.

    Is it really worth it to not try and add 1-2 more supporting pieces to this team and sneak into the playoffs?

    The chances of winning the lottery from the 12-14 range is a fraction of one percent. Not good odds. Meanwhile, the benefits of making the playoffs are much greater:

    --The Rockets generate extra revenue via hosting 2-3 playoff games
    --Revenues otherwise are increased via fan interest during the regular season
    --A pick in the 15-16 range will net a similar caliber of player as a top 12-14 pick
    --Major 2010 free agents are more likely to want to play for the Rockets if they think they can win a championship as the missing star on a team of supporting players capable of making the playoffs on their own


    Bottom line: Absent trading away both Battier and Scola for young players who are currently significantly worse players, I just don't see a scenario where the Rockets finish any higher in the draft order than 10 or 11. I'd much rather make the playoffs and have the 15th pick. But maybe that's just me.
     
  19. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    a question from a '99er gone unanswered? not in my thread!

    i'd say there is a pretty good chance both of those players will be signed for the minimum by some team. we do have roster spots that can be made available (white, non guaranteed... cook/barry either cut or bought out), and we are looking to load up on young talent to develop.

    we'll have to see if either of those guys drums up any interest from any other team.
     
  20. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    this is a great argument. i'll have to think about it today and get back to you.

    however, i still think that moving shane for capspace and a pick is on the agenda (since he was offered in a package for rubio already), but may not be till the deadline, or even draft night.
     

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