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You Think Detriot REGRET not taking CARMELO?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Luckyazn, Apr 9, 2004.

  1. yipengzhao

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    i really like Okur... he has some amazing skills for how big he is. the rockets need a guy like that.
     
  2. GreenVegan76

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    Melo is going to be a fantastic NBA player, but hindsight is always 20/20.

    And before we dump all over Darko, he's only like 12 years old. Before writing him off as a bust, we should probably wait until he's at least 20. Post players take longer to develop.

    Of course, to catch up to Melo, he'll take 40 years, but he could still develop into a fine NBA player.
     
  3. PhiSlammaJamma

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    But how do you pass on Anthony. Makes no sense. He'd done everything. He'd even beaten Lebron. Lebron I could understand. He's gonna sell tickets. But Darko had nothing on Anthony.
     
  4. HOOP-T

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    Yes, they regret it deeply.
     
  5. OverRRated

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    I stand corrected if Brown actually wanted Anthony.

    That being said, it's still pretty sad to see people attempting to justify the selection.
     
  6. teknokid

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    Melo is only 1 year older than Darko but melo seems like he is a season veteran already. Hitting big shots after big shots, melo has already developed in to a fine player.

    So Darko really have potential huh?
    Doesnt potential normally relate to athleticism? Jermain Oneal had potential because of his athleticism. KG had potential for same reason. Almost every player who was drafted for having potentials were freaks of nature. Tmac, Amare, Kwame, and Shawn Kemp all have something in common. They all have / had potential because of their athleticism. Name one person who was drafted as high as Darko with less athleticism. From what I have seen (limited though), this guy can jump as high as Jason Collier.

    Shooting touches, plays, court vision, and post moves can be all taught. So it seems unreasonable to say that Dark has potential because he got post up moves.
    You all must crazy to say that Detroit doesnt regret. Either they need big man or not, you dont just pass up for a player like Melo.
     
  7. Kayman

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    I've been going back and forth on this one. Passing on the best college player since Tim Duncan was kind of unexplicable, but... it's too early to make a judgement on Milicic. Even if Carmello is the next MJ, Milicic may be the next Bowie, but he maybe the next Olajuwon, we don't really know in this day and age, when rooks get drafted at 17. An 18-year-old Dream likely wouldn't get playing time under Larry Brown, either.

    Add to this the fact big men are harder to get, and that T.Prince is actually a very decent player. He may not be better than Carmello, but sure as hell is ten times better than Snackbar. So don't be too harsh Joe D., generally he's done a good job, much better than our r****d Dawson who passed on Prince for Nachbar...
     
  8. Hobbs

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    Just so you know, teknokid, Milicic tested out with better athleticism than Anthony by the NBA (and that's without compensating for differences in size). Jumping is not the only thing involved in athletic ability (and a 7'1 guy with the same exact wingspan as Ming--and he's still growing--doesn't exactly have to jump too high).

    Again, Anthony practically cried when he played against Detroit. He would have been in full pout mode from the first practice where he got thrown around like a rag doll. He's a very good offensive player but he doesn't have the defensive mindset to crack Detroit's starting lineup now. Prince plays defense and actually is just as efficient an offensive player as Anthony, he just doesn't get to shoot 25 times a night (BTW, Detroit's backup SF is more efficient offensively than Anthony-- Corliss Williamson, maybe you've heard of him?).

    The only really sad thing is people writing off Darko after one year when he'll still be younger than most of the high schoolers declaring for this year's draft.

    Would Anthony have helped Detroit more than Darko this year? Yes, of course. Would he make a bit of difference in where they end up in the playoffs? Doubtful.
     
  9. canoner2002

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    hard to say. Who knows what Darko is capable of. Carmelo is given a lot of minutes and a lot of shots on this Denver team. Basically, he is given the light to do whatever he wants, play however selfishly he wants. I don't see him getting that under L. Brown. Those veteran players would have beaten him up first before Brwon says a word.
     
  10. Nuggets4

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    YEah, because Denver has no veteran players. :rolleyes:

    Melo shoots a lot. You know why? BECAUSE HE'S GOOD ENOUGH TO! Put him on Detroit, he won't get as MANY shots, but he's still leading the team. People saying he's not as good as Prince are laughable. He's better than RIP. The only player that might be better than Melo is Big Ben, and he doesn't shoot.

    Trust me, Pistons fans are doing the same thing that Nugs fans did with Skita last year. "Oh, well, we're playing for the future". "Oh, *insert name here* probably wouldn't be as productive here". Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get used to it Detroit. We've been hearing it about SKita, you're hearing it about Darko. Just fess up. You screwed up.

    BTW, I'm hoping Kelly Dwyer reads this forum. Kelly, was it you guys at OnHoops that coined the "Pissed-Ons" name? I loved that.

    Damn, I still miss that site.
     
  11. yaopao

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    Too early to say.

    Melo is a nice player, but it's not like there's only 1 Carmelo once every 10 years.

    You can find good 6 ft 8 small forwards in just about every draft.

    Moreover, he wouldn't really fit in that well with Detroit. If he were on Detroit, he'd be somewhat forgotten.
     
  12. teknokid

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    Darko sucked this year. It is likely there are 5- 10 Darko every year.
    You can find sorry 7'1" centers in just about every draft.
    Moreover, he wouldnt really fit anywhere. If he was on any NBA team, he'd be still forgotten.
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    As long as Darko isn't deported for weed and shooting his girlfriend, Detroit won't regret it that badly.
     
  14. ROXTXIA

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    Yeah, Detroit seems to be doing pretty well with Dork-o on the bench. But here's hoping he'll prove the naysayers wrong....

    .....unless he's traded to a WC team, most of which are playoff-worthy already....

    ....unless, for some reason, WE trade for him, in which case, he'd better rock.
     
  15. rockbox

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    How many other rookies averaged over 20 points a game that didn't become hall of famers. How many players averaged 20 points at 19 years old. How many players lead their team to the NCAA championships as a freshman. How many other players lead their team to the playoffs(in the west, no doubt) after being one of the worse teams in the league, as a rookie. The answer of those questions are very few.

    Carmelo is special, just like Lebron. Carmelo has the potential to be Larry Bird with hops. Those type of players don't come around every draft or as you say "every 10 years."

    Detroit's draft pick will go down as the worse draft pick since Sam Bowie was picked before Jordan.
     
  16. meh

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    If Melo is on the Pistons, and he averages 15 points(and it's not a given he can average even that much) on 42% shooting, do you think fans in Detroit would really be saying, "Glad we picked him over a guy who could be a franchise center in the future?"

    Darko's ceiling is much higher than Melo. The guy in 2-3 years could become of the top centers in the league. Sure, he may not pan out, but it's not as if Melo is a lock to improve either.
     
  17. sonique15

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    darko really hasnt had a chance to play.....melo has been playin 40 min. a game......they drafted darko mainly on potential....there's still a chance he can be better than darko.....though it's a VERY SMALL chance.......its still a chance......
     
  18. Kayman

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    :D Classic!
     
  19. dskillz

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    I think Detriot is fine with their decision. They are one of the top teams in the East with the lineup they have. I think that if they had gotten Carmello, they would have had to change alot of the team's offense and make-up. I mean, he would basically be replacing Rip. I don't think they regret it too much.
     
  20. zenmar

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    Carmelo is great his jab step is pretty fast when he is in the low block but darko has a lot of potential if he improves his shooting and he have some low post moves i really thought he is a great shooter because he is always being compared with dirk but that is not the case he is like kukoc w/out shooting but bulky.
     

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