I think I know why T-Mac&Yao is soo angry.... This picture taken shortly after his gf gave the 80 cents to the homeless guy.. l l l V
I've spent my share of time begging for change so I tend to give freely. Almost got fired from a job because I gave at the loading docks. Boss and I compromised so I start giving on the sidewalk. But, no matter how down and out you are being grateful is an asset. If a homeless person snubbed his nose at my generosity I guarantee you he'll never get another dime from me. (I know this forum well so before it starts, the "dime" is an expression)
A toll clerk is working and they have to follow certain guidelines, like giving you correct change, not the same thing at all. You're not thanking them because they decided to give you any change at all out of kindness, but because they performed their job, which they're paid to do, correctly.
I gave a homeless person five dollars once. He was totally appreciative to the point of he would not let me walk away without shaking my hand with his dirty hand in appreciation. I tried to shrug him off as no big deal but he insisted. I would have probably slapped your homeless guy with a five, ten, or twenty dollar bill...and then ran. No thanks needed here.
You're missing the point. AB is saying he doesn't have thank a toll clerk, for the reason that they are doing what they're paid to do. And yet he does thank them because he's showing appreciation for what they've done (given him change), as little as it may be. If I was begging, if I was truly a beggar and not an American beggar who can actually be choosy, then I'd appreciate whatever someone who owed me nothing was able to provide to me. Not only if they were able to meet my expectations of enough money for a beer or full meal.
No, i got his point, but it doesnt make any sense. You can't compare one working man and another working man interacting like that to a working man and a "homeless guy". Yes, all 4 are human beings, but human minds are shaped by one's own experiences, and as humans, we should be smart enough to put ourselves in the shoes of others and understand why they may or may not say thanks in this case. The OP is thinking wayy too much of his own experiences and feelings and not enough of the feelings and experiences of the other guy. Yes, the homeless guy may just be some scamming beggar and maybe deserves to get punched, cussed out, or whtvr, but the OP doesnt know for sure in this case. Give him the benefit of the doubt, maybe he's gone through some f'ed up stuff and that's just how he is now. Most importantly, at the end of the day it was just 80 cents to the OP, which is why i cant understand why he can't just let it go. Perhaps the guy had a tough day and later on was much more thankful for those 80 cents. You have to think beyond that instant of interaction. He doesnt have to say thank you that second to truly be thankful.
Really, sometimes we need to check ourselves... Why is it that we give? is it to feel better about ourselves or is it to trully bless someone.... I can come up with 100 situations and comparisons but none like this... Read 44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,[a] 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? Mathew 5:44-46 There are both good and evil people out there, but does that stop God from blessing or loving all? So wether the homeless man is just or unjust, using others to not work, evil or good why should it matter if your heart is in the right place to bless him... Does God not bless us everyday only for us to ignore and not appriciate it... Does that make him not want to bless us any longer? No, he still does it because thats what love is...
The rest of your posts sound more like it's the lack of appreciation that you have a problem with. What exactly is audacious about a homeless guy who's already gotten money from you and will probably never see you again not saying thank you?
Here it goes to D&D. But don't I go to Hell because I don't believe in God. So is that him loving or blessing me?
If I am paying someone for a service it is not really necessary for me show appreciation, nor do they expect it but I do it anyway. Hec, I'm so programmed that I even say thank you to cops for tickets. It's just who I am...so maybe subconsciously it's what I expect in return. You say we should be smart enough to put ourselves in the shoes of others to understand their behavior, right? As a kid I was punished, and sometimes hit for not saying "yes sir" "yes mam" and "thank you". Now put yourself in my shoes.
Wtf? 80 cents is more than the homeless man had. If he's that picky which since he's homeless he shouldn't be then he should stop begging.
Around Christmas this past year, I took a day off from punching bums to do something nice for one and got similar results. Off of Washington and 10 there was a bum with a dog. He was a black guy with dreadlocks and was wearing a Nirvana beanie with the old "smiley" logo on it. The dog was really pretty and I am a huge sucker for dogs. I decided to do something nice. I went to a corner store off of Washington and buy a bag of dogfood, a six pack of tall boys, a bag of funyuns, and a couple of lottery tickets. All in all spent about $25 and got back in my car to go take it to him. When I got back to where he was, I couldn't find him. I ended up getting out of my car and running around looking for him in my suit like an *******. I finally see him and while running to the Chevron across Washington, I step in a huge mud puddle and get it all over my suit. I finally get over to the Chevron parking lot, covered in mud and sweat, while carrying two fistfulls of grocery bags and I walk up to him whith the groceries extended. As I say "Merry Christmas," he interrupts and says "money." Then he mumbles something about how why would he need dog food when his ****ing dog eats all of his food. He grabs the bags and turns away. I was dumbfounded. I still see this bum all the time. I want to steal his dog.
Just because someone is begging, that doesn't necessarily make them homeless, even if they claim to be. And just because someone is homeless, that doesn't make them hungry. There are many, many services that provide free food to the homeless. In truth, most beggars want money for booze, smokes, and drugs - stuff they can't get with food stamps or from a charity.
I don't see the problem with expecting a thank you for giving a homeless man 80 cent. For people complaining about how low it is, it's 80 cent more than the homeless man had. If the homeless man is that pissed about not receiving enough money than maybe he should take that anger and start walking to the nearest shelter that gives out food.
i can see your point at the end, but it's much easier to take a guess as to what the life of the beggar in front of you is like, than a random stranger in a forum.
No D&D please.... But lets instead conversate... I found your post very interesting thou... Lets break it down because I think you didnt notice what you did here. "But dont I go to hell because I dont believe in God?" So you are telling me here you will go to hell because you dont believe in God... The way you put it here is that you choose to not believe in God and therefor for that reason you will go to hell... Do you even believe in hell? if you dont believe in God then you cant possibly believe in hell, it almost sounds as if you do believe in hell or atleast you have thought about it being real.. And then you followed with "So is that him loving or blessing me?"... So basically I think that what you are trying to say is, because I choose to not believe in God he will send me to hell so is that him loving or blessing me? The answer is yes, he loves you and no he does not send you to hell. Hell is a choice, heaven is a choice, believing in God is a choice and following/seeking him is a choice.
