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You have to use Dmo when you need buckets, you just have to...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Dec 26, 2015.

  1. daywalker02

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    Fair enough. I give him this season to prove me wrong. Or another half season.

    I know he is decent but if you are blowing up this team, there'd be better talent than Capela and Dmo.

    I gave you perfect examples. (Dirk, Porzingis, Marc and Pau Gasol)
     
  2. wekko368

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    Statistically, Jones is shooting better from the 3pt line. There's no denying that. But what about when he's afraid to shoot those 3 pointers and starts pump-faking every time he's open? The purpose of an offense is to create an open look for our shooters. So when Jones is open but refuses to shoot, he ruins the flow of the offense.

    But he's shooting 40% from the 3pt line which is great, right? :rolleyes:
     
  3. dmoneybangbang

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    I never said it was great... I was merely responding to DDs post to me. I never claimed TJones was the better offensive player either.

    So you got more than putting words in my mouth or do you want to deal with things I've actually discussed?
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    I just don't understand how he's only getting 7 minutes a game right now.

    People say because he's a bad rebounder, which he is, but he was a bad rebounder last year and the Rockets won a ton of games with him as the only constant in the front court. And we did that without a center.

    They say it's becuase he's recovering, but prior to this 3 game demotion, he was playing 19 MPG and averaging 10 PPG on 54% over his previous 6, he was rounding into form.

    He's not the savior some make him out to be, but he is a very useful player who isn't being used, it's ridiculous
     
  5. wekko368

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    He alone can't form the culture, but he's the foundation of that culture, and it can't exist without him. Throughout his entire career, he's cared more about winning than his own personal stats or his brand. The last 4 years, he's taken massive pay cuts so the Spurs could stay competitive. He's making $5.2mm this season. Think about that. Beverley is making more than Tim Duncan.

    And do you know what's worse than an unhealthy environment? A losing culture. And that's what happens when you can't get stars to play for your team.

    Like it or not, this is a star-driven league. And for the most part, these stars have been coddled since they were in junior high or high school. If you don't cater to them, you won't keep them.

    Of course. To get Dwight and Nash, the Lakers traded away a bunch of their future draft picks.

    How is that relevant? When that contract was signed, Kobe was a scrub. We're talking about catering to stars, not scrubs.
     
  6. wekko368

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    I haven't put any words in your mouth. None whatsoever. I was simply responding to your statement:

     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    No you choose to highlight one aspect. DaDakota posted DMo's fg and 3pt % as a reason why he should be getting more minutes. This was my entire reply below..

    It's whatever though, I think DMo should be the better than Jones since that seems so important around here. He just hasn't shown yet this season, coming off back surgery.
     
  8. dmoneybangbang

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    His rebounding has dropped off a cliff and he is fouling too much, I think his back is hurting him or some sort of physical ailment since he did play relatively heavy minutes about a week ago.
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Wrong

    Please post the proof of your thoughts.

    DD
     
  10. Verbal Christ

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    dmo still has a ways to go. he is currently a defensive liability and cant rebound in traffic. things that must change as he gets healthier.
     
  11. ibm

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    i guess we just think differently.

    let me put it this way... remember the rockets team under rick adelman that took the almighty lakers to 7 games in the playoffs? i'd very much prefer that team over the current team "led" by 2 "superstars". but it's just me...
     
  12. larsv8

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    I like Dmo, but he has been horrible so far.

    Highest turnover rate on the team, and can't get rebounds to save his life.

    For a team, whose two biggest weaknesses are rebounding and turnovers, its no wonder he is getting no time.
     
  13. elainas

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    Put DMo in that period.
    1) He set screens almost each possession(or more),
    2) We move the ball more
    3) He also stretch the floor
    4) He can post up

    Even ISO for Harden become much easier, because of screens.

    My expectations till he plays 10+ games with 20+ mins from DMo:
    1) 0 rebounds
    2) lack of box-out
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    3) More post up's
    4) Good positional D
    5) 3's
    6) ball movement on the court

    We know what we get with him. We can be out rebounded by 20 and win the games, because of ball movement, post up's and playing with IQ.

    Just say we trade TJ, did we expect jump from 6mins to 28min and play good? It's not gonna happen.

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    My suggestion send to D-league for a month when he's be ready play 40min there, we put him in rotation. Thats it.

    p.s DMo after he was cleared to practice mention, he consider go to D-league, but coaches decide otherwise.
     
  14. Mr. Clutch

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    The DMofs are strong in this one.

    Happens every year, some guy on the bench is the supposed savior. Never turns out that way though.
     
  15. hakeemthagreat

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    DMo right now is good offensive PF but despicable on defense & rebounding. JB can't play him if he's gonna allow extra possessions & allow his man free lanes to the basket. It puts too much pressure on the defense. DMo has his own fanbase here and they refuse to accept any criticism of their role model.
     
  16. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    Jones was playing like total **** and he was getting more minutes than DMo is getting now, playing OK.
     
  17. OpenLayup-Why3?

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    Last 3 games DMo is averaging 7 minutes. Rockets were outrebounded in ALL 3 games. Yeah, DMo is the problem. Sending DMo to the doghouse solved everything, Rockets are so much better now, rockin that 1-2 record, with a random win vs Spurs.
     
  18. wekko368

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    It's not about thinking differently. It's about accepting reality. Sure, in a perfect world, all players would have a team-first mentality. But that's not the world in which we live.

    That team was easy to like b/c its superstar (Yao) was easy to like. He had a team-first mentality who impacted the game more than Harden. But let's not forget that team also had McGrady, a selfish prima donna who torpedoed the team when the Rockets wouldn't cater to his demands.
     
  19. wekko368

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    He had a good game last night. You simply have unrealistic expectations for him.
     
  20. Snow Villiers

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    Regardless of my sig (which was all in good fun btw) no one here is saying he is the savior only that he gives the team a better chance at winning games due to his offensive abilities greatly overshadowing his current liabilities.
     

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