Hitler wrote Mein Kampf after the Munich Beer Hall Putsch. What point are you attempting to convey? That Trumps first term wasn't the Hitlerite hellscape that people like you claimed it would be but the second will be? Yea, I don't believe you. We already lived through a Trump administration. Life in 2018 went on quite similarly to how it did in 2014 or how it did in 2023.
Didn't I already tell you that Germany was a fresh democracy that didn't have two centuries of institutional foundations of a working democracy? Hitler in America today as president wouldn't go that far in his first run through. The people he would need to look the other way or say yes to his authoritarian desires weren't in place. The people around Trump this time believe they got it right this time to make sure the people are in the correct positions. Part of why Trump wants to dismiss Project 2025 pubilically is because the documentation and video "discussions" by the Heritage Foundation explicitly explain how they will increase the ratio of federal employees to be political appointees and being so brazen to discuss how every decision in the White House shouldn't be documented because that will cause legal issues if they go to court. If you want to say Trump isn't as ideologically driven as Hitler, sure. In that sense he's more like Mussolini. Donald Trump will brace racism and bigotry because he knows that is an easy base to pander to. You don't have to sell them on a healthcare policy it. You just have to tell them migrants are the reason your life sucks. Hitler truly believes in his race science stuff and was driven by it. That is the main distinction between Trump and Hitler. When Trump refers to the "deep state" he's referring to careerists in the federal government who are not political appointees and have actual technical knowledge. Those are the people who usually push back on brazen political moves.
So this is just a long winded way to say, "Yea the second term, that's when you get the Hitlerite hellscape" - Right, ok. Or maybe Trump serves his four years and your life goes on like normal just like it did during his first term. That seems a lot more plausible.
How about this. Let's not risk it and put a dude who says that migrants are poisining the blood of the country, gleefully expresses the concept of deporting 20 million humans in span of weeks which would require literal concentration camps to process deportations at such a scale, makes up blood libel claims of entire ethnic groups, says that he wants to stick the military on enemies within while having a history of referring to news publications like NYT as "enemy yof the people" in the presidency. If the best defense of Trump is his damage will be limited because of American institutions, then you have nothing to stand on dude. You probably will respond with "I don't care about who wins". Okay. We are debating whether Trump and his sporting base are fascists. It seems like your defense is "and if he was it doesn't matter because we aren't going to turn into Nazi Germany".
Shouldn't you be looking for my pro Trump, pro nazi, pro fascist posts on the board for your cash bro.
Uh.. maybe you are? I'm saying Trumps first term wasn't the Hitlerlite hellscape people like you claimed it would be and I don't believe the claims now that Trumps second term will be the Hiterlite hellscape you and people like you are claiming it will be.
I claimed that we would experience another Holocaust level event within his first term? Do you have quotes back in 2016 showing this? Imagine how bad of a presidential candidate someone is when the only defense about his fascism is "he didn't turn America into Nazi Germany with his first term". No, he didn't. But why even have a person put in power who says stuff like migrants are "poisoning the blood of our country"? Why even risk it? Do you have a point besides "we didn't get auschwitz his first time around"
Yea, not only did we not get Auschwitz. We didn't get anything. Everything hummed along pretty normally. What group of persons experienced any meaningful change to their life because Trump was President? MSNBC was on 24/7 365 bashing Trump. There was no suspension of freedom of the press. There was no suspension of freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, no arrest of political opponents, political opponents protested and voiced their opinions, political opponents ran political campaigns just like they did before, we held free and fair elections, no police state, no gestapo, sexual minorities still got married still went around living their lives, no camp system of any kind was developed etc etc. Where's the beef bruh?
Didn't Donald Trump do unprecedented actions of using federal agents of homeland security wearing tactical equipment without name tapes or any identification roaming city streets of protests and riots after the George Floyd incident and rounding up random people walking the streets without any acknowledgement of why they are detained? Didn't he separate families in mass by creating a "zero tolerance policy" where every migrant crossing the border even ones that don't have any affiliations with criminal elements that came with families and are just looking for a job were imprisoned and justified separating these families because "kids don't go to prison with their parents"? But they aren't American citizens so those humans don't matter I guess. And the there is the fact that Trump winning means people who enjoy the "Hatians are stealing and eating pets" stories and love hating immigrants, non white people l etc embolden them to believe their ideas are popular creator and increase in things like harassment and hate crimes because "hey the president is saying these things so it's credible". Again the best defense you can muster for Trump not being a fascist is "American didn't turn into a explicitly fascist state under one presidential term'. That is a kinda pathetic. You are right? That is a very pathetic argument for why Trump isn't fascist. Again why even risk someone who expressed fascist theories constantly be president? Why risk it?
Can you post a good-faith tweet just once? Please? Wiki: For the 2003–2004 session, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)[102] rated Byrd's voting record as being 100% in line with the NAACP's position on the thirty-three Senate bills they evaluated. Sixteen other senators received that rating. In June 2005, Byrd proposed an additional $10,000,000 in federal funding for the Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial in Washington, D.C., remarking that, "With the passage of time, we have come to learn that his Dream was the American Dream, and few ever expressed it more eloquently".[103] Upon news of his death, the NAACP released a statement praising Byrd, saying that he "became a champion for civil rights and liberties" and "came to consistently support the NAACP civil rights agenda".[104]
Are you German? Yes or no? Has Germany ever embraced Nazis? Yes or no? Don't add context just answer yes or no.
Risk what? I already lived under a Trump administration. I was told it would end democracy. I was told Trump was the new Hitler. I was told Trump would turn America into a fascist police state. That's what you're saying now too. What did we actually get? Nothing of the sort.
We are going in a loop. You've already expressed this logic. I explained why it's flimsy logic. The concept that it's okay Donald Trump is a fascist because American didn't turn into a fascist state the first time he was president is a sad pathetic attempt at defense. When your best defense for Donald Trump being a fascist is "America didn't become fascist after his first term", you don't have a worthwhile argument. Donald Trump is a fascist because he centers his campaign on expressing a hatred of groups of people that aren't white Christian to rule up a base that is motivated by that hatred. Whether American institutions hold strong and endure Trump's fascism is an entirely different argument.
