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You Guys Debating Fascism Should Ask....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Oct 23, 2024.

  1. basso

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    Cuomo was a neocon?
     
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    It's also interesting to see someone who criticized the Cuomo brothers before suddenly now saying they get it.
     
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    It could be because they suddenly get it.
     
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    @Nook thinks Donald Trump is a horrible human who shouldn't be anywhere close to a position of power.

    He's stating reality. Trump isn't an ideological person. He never sits down and ponders on things like social hierarchies, race science etc. Trump is the embodiment of id. His brain is purely a entity that only sees short term pleasure of narcissistic praise and spiteful hate of the slightest hits on his ego. There is no room in his brain for ideological thought.

    But he's still a fascist. A lot of fascists don't have strong ideas about ideology. Hence why it's considered a reactionary ideology. That's why all the major philosophers of fascism aren't fascists but people who critique fascism from a anti-fascist view point because the origins of fascism aren't drive by intellectual scholars but by charismatic despots
     
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    revelations come to all of us, if your heart is open.
     
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    It is amazing how that works.

    Cuomo gets in trouble for unethical behavior - his opportunities with mainstream media are gone - so he suddenly has an about face looking for acceptance from a group of people that will accept anyone as long as they spew the right bullshit.

    It is amazing - all of these people, they all benefit personally from MAGA and they then spread the gospel.

    From Blago - to D'Souza... Kilpatrick.... Cuomo.....
     
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    Nazis having fun.

     
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    Damn. A Mark Robinson appearance.
     
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    The Mooch on Trump and Fascism.



    If Japanese people were voting in the election, 70% would vote for Harris, and 20% would vote for Trump. And I think you might get reasonably similar results in other US allies around the world. How do you explain Trump's staying power to an Asian audience?

    Well, what I would say about Japan, and I would say this about Europe and parts of Asia, is that these countries have hereditary memory from the specter and the rise of authoritarianism, the specter and rise of fascism.

    If you think about Japanese history, United Kingdom, Paris, France, et cetera, if you are raised in France, you visit Normandy Beach, that's one of your field trips. If you're raised in London or in the United Kingdom, you may visit the Churchill War Cabinet, or you may go to the Hiroshima Memorial in Japan. And so what I find about the United States is that in the 1930s, when there was a rise of fascism and there was an American Nazi party and there were rallies, like a big rally at Madison Square Garden, and these rallies were led by people like Charles Lindbergh or Father Coughlin, they were put down by Franklin Roosevelt.

    And so we managed to keep our democracy and we managed to suppress the first America First movement.

    And so in the United States, we don't have this memory, we don't have this memory of the violence, we don't have this memory of the terror, the lack of certainty and predictability of laws, the legal system. And so if you're in Japan and you see a leader like President Trump, and you hear him talking the way he's talking, you're like, 'Okay, that's going to end badly because it ended badly here in my country, or it ended badly in Europe.' But in the United States, we shielded the American public from this sort of hereditary memory.

    And so that's one of the reasons, because people are looking for panaceas. He talks like that sort of a populist leader that only he can fix it, he'll balance the budget in four years, of course, he ran up the budget $7.8 trillion. He says he'll stop the Ukrainian war after 24 hours. But we know that means that he's going to cede ground and he's going to cede freedoms to Vladimir Putin, which I don't think that's something that we in the West want to do at this perilous time in the world.
     
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    It's more like: if the US is going to **** (which MAGA fully believes) and one party is gonna take it all over, then they want Their Guy to do it.

    MAGA and Trump lovers were b****ing for 2 years straight about Biden and co going Full Authoritarian during the lockdowns. At this point, we all must be enslaved from 5G vaxxes to care.

    Our slow boil to turnkey authoritarianism has been simmering since the Patriot Act, and you definitely don't want candidates to joke about what they'll do with all that power.
     
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    The frightening thing here really is watching what the Billionaire oligarch class (Bezos, Buffet, Zuck, etc.) are doing right in plain sight.

    And this is a great example of why Communism became so popular after WW2 after the world saw how a thriving German Democracy with the richest business leaders in the world could capitulate OVERNIGHT into one of the most dangerous fascistic governments in our human history. All because in the end all of these oligarchs when they have this much consolidated wealth ONLY CARE ABOUT PRESERVING THAT WEALTH. None of these billionaires except for maybe Mark Cuban of all people actually care about Democracy over their wealth. They know that as a dictator takes over they need to preserve their ability to pay off the dictator, and in turn the dictator will make sure their bread is buttered.

    All of these idiots here who LOOOVVVVEEE to talk about the dangers of communism are doing their best to turn Americans against capitalism, and the corruption of our Republic which has led to a clear (potential) takeover by a dictatorship with a billionaire oligarch class who will sell out the American people in a heart beat.

    This is Russia 1999 in reality though. Trump isn't Hitler even though he could have been if he was 10 years younger. Our only saving grace if Trump wins is it's unlikely he's healthy enough and mentally there enough to stay in power too long. If Trump wins it'll be JD Vance, and Mike Johnson etc. who likely end up running the country while Trump lives out his days at Mar A Lago tweeting from the sh$tter till he dies.

    Either way though we are heading into a very very dark period (assuming Trump wins) and I just hope that it's temporary, and recoverable in 4 to12 years while me and my family are still in our prime in able to enjoy living in a free society.
     
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    I'll again repeat it:

    Our billionaire oligarch class in real time EXCEPT FOR MARK CUBAN are openly telling us they are preparing for a dictatorship, and value their bank account over your freedoms & our Democracy.

    ....

    Also - Speaking of Oligarchs - I encourage all of you to look up what douchebag Tillman Fertitta's family is doing in Nevada to fck over labor groups while he's building his mega Vegas casino. The owner of the Rockets is a pretty horrible person. Fck that guy.
     
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    Met him and his crypto son.

    Grifters.
     
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    Bidenler.jpeg
     
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    And it would've all been Hunter's if it weren't for those meddling kids and their dumb dog!!
     
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    Or if you’re charged with misusing your position as governor and giving favorable coverage of your brother.

    It is notable how Democrats become darlings of conservatives after they are on level in crimes and or other scandals.
    The Cuomo Brothers
    RFK Jr.
    Eric Adams
    Rod Blagojevich
     
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    Japan does have a far right that has elected politicians and Europe has elected far right leaders recently.

    The rise of populist leaders with authoritarian tendencies isn’t just a US problem.
     

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