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You Can Celebrate All You Want. I Don't Want This Guy Here At ALL!!

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Almu, Aug 24, 2000.

  1. HOOP-T

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    I don't like Falk either, but he is doing his job and doing it well.

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  2. carlos

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    >I don't want this guy here. I especially >don't want his agent here.

    Yes but they are here and what does it hurt to hope for the best?? I felt the same way about Pippin but once he got here I thought I might as well give him a few games to see how he blended in.

    >Yeah, he can score. But so can 90 percent >of all the bums in the NBA.

    This must be hyperbole as it is patently untrue. if that were the case we would not ned any ohter players as Pig, Bull and the rest of the menagerie could provide tons of points.

    >On top of that, he is in his last year of >his contract. This type of player will bust >his ass this year and hope for the money.

    This is true of all players in his same situation

    >Once he gets it, he ain't gonna do sh@t.

    You would need a crystal ball to be certain

    >Finally, his agent is the Don King of >basketball. He will try and hi-jack the >Rockets if they don't do what he says. >Heard what he said to the Pistons? He said >that he will "never bring them another >client". What a jackass.


    I agree, Falk's methods are heavy handed, machievellian etc. etc. Although I think one of the reasons he did not want Mo here is that the Rocks have one of the more likeable coaching/mangment teams in the league which may lessen his hold on his client.

    >Look at Mo Taylor. Does he look like >someone that wants to win? Did he want >Houston at all? Or, did the Rocks seem like >the used and abused hooker in a situation >where someone was looking to get >their "Rocks" off?

    This happens with almost every free agent. Same thing with Shandon last year. By your analogy he was a w**** sleeping around tryin gto find a sugar daddy. I just think he was trying to find the best situation fro himself and his career. Don't we all do that??


    >This guy was not looking to sign for the >exception like Anderson did. We are the >other woman in the whole situation because >of a dead trade. And now, we get to have >Don King in our corner to "hook" us up with >future players one day.

    The Rockets management is not under the thumb of Falk. If Mo wishes to go next year, so be it. However for Mo to go it might require some kind of sign and trade that the Rockets could profit from. Additionally the Rockets will undoubtably have an improveed record as a consequence of Mo's signing which should help lure other free agents.

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  3. carlos

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    Mango wrote

    He was in the last year of his Clipper contract and he didn't bust it there.

    Ok to sound Clintonesque it depends what you measn by bust it.

    He had 17.2 points per and 6.5 rbds game is not too shabby for a guy who will only cost is 2.5 mil.

    Since I don't watch Clipper games , who does, I cannot speak as to whther he was dogging it or not. That is not the point, what counts is how well he does here. Nobody can predict that until he plays with us for a year.

    I just find it amusign that so many people are down on what is essentially a risk free venture. it is not like we are signing Dennis Rodman.




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  4. Mango

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    Carlos,

    If Mo's play in 1999-2000 would have been considered outstanding, then he would/should have been able to get a better contract than a Mid-Cap "Prove It". The Clips and Mo have a mutual dislike for each other, but if he was a hot NBA property, then they could have buried their differences
    and did a sign-n-trade in which the Rockets would have given up:

    the future Bucks #1 pick

    a Rockets #1 pick

    players

    cash to offset the contracts of the players that the Rockets sent to the Clips

    used the trade exception to be able to take on Mo with a max contract this year

    Since none of the above was needed, then he evidently failed to bust it enough to warrant it in Rudy's opinion and the rest of the NBA.

    Mango

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  5. DaDakota

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    I guess that is how the Grizzlies feel about Steve Francis. They don't want him either.

    Give me a break, a one year deal is NO risk at all.

    If Rudy is and the organization think it is a good deal, then I do too.

    DaDakota

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  6. Joe Joe

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    I think to compare Falk to King is a bad comparison. I don't want to imply Falk is a good guy, being that he is probably one of the three greatest evils in basketball now, but he isn't in King's weight class, not close.

    King has ruined people's careers on a whim. Falk only does it to help himself. Two enemies of King were killed mysteriously before I was born. His top prize fighter bite an opponent's ear of.


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  7. SuperS32

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    Abpout Mo Taylor not caring about winning or losing and his laziness- remmeber, he played pissed off at the clipps all yr. He didn't try and didn't care because he wanted to get out of there AND GO TO A CONTENDER. I think he'll give us an inside scorer and another exscuse to trade Carlos Rogers.

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  8. NIKEstrad

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    I am more or less for Mo, but the situation is bugging me, kind of like Mo didn't really want to come here, he wanted to go to Seattle. But, according to various whispers, Mo wanted to come here, Falk didn't want him to. Anyone find it interesting that Falk "let" him come here?

    It's pretty much a given we won't build a championship team if we don't take some risks. This is a pretty good one IMO.

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  9. carlos

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    Mango,

    In regards to your contention that something could have been worked out, you makes a lot of sense. it is quite strange that the Clipps did not try to get somethingn in return. It strikes me that the reason is Clippers dislikeing Falk.

    Falk needs to get his comeuppnace. His attempts to be a "kingmaker" is a threat to the league. It is high time someone said no, we will not deal with you. I am sure the Clippers have many secret fans among NBA management. It would not surprise me if they have the full unspoken support of the league. Only the Clipps with their huge roster of young'uns could afford to tell him to screw off.

    I understand your concerns about about Mo's mental approach to the game, but at the price we are getting him I would say the concern is unecessary.


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    Like HELL!!!! [​IMG]



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  11. Mango

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    Carlos,

    We will end this debate peacefully.

    Mango


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  12. Gascon

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    No, my friend, because it's reasonable to assume that they know a hell of a lot more about what's going on than you do.

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  13. Gascon

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    I think it's ironic that CC.net still has the 100% Quitten-free sign up.

    I think Quitten is still very much here. Just read over this thread.

    So many bruised psyches, so much time before the season starts.

    A pity...

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  14. SmeggySmeg

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    An I will still be there as a Mobley Aplogist to make you eat your word Dr or CUT TINO

    But there is NO chance i will be a MO Cancer Man Apologist.

    Smeee

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  15. GATER

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    Just noticed that Rasheed Wallace only averages 7.0 rebounds per game. Mo is certainly NOT 'Sheed, but it's worth noting.

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  16. Achebe

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    Gascon,

    Are you suggesting that noone can ever question a Rockets move ever again? Sure, Rudy has a larger basketball IQ than I do... but he's a human and should therefore be applauded when he does good things and criticized when he's in error.

    Who are you going to vote for? Al Gore b/c he's the only one that knows more than you do?

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  17. Moe

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    How did Falk do his job well when he got Taylor to believe he would sign for the Max this off-season and then gets him a 2.5 mil exception? Maybe Mo's trying to figure that out, too.
    Actually, now that it looks like he is coming, I hope it does work out. All these guys who have doubts, absolutely have valid points and I certainly don't think they are any less Rocket fans for having them.
    There was a good point made about taking the pressure of KT, Collier and getting them more seasoning before expecting more from them.
    "He played for the Clippers" apologies are pure crap. My heroes are guys like Hakeem, Nolan Ryan, Earl Campbell who have the guts and character to rise above and give 100%, regardless. I don't make a dime to be a fan, so I'll just stick with guys who have character.
    I am excited.

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  18. Mango

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    Carlos,

    ">On top of that, he is in his last year of >his contract. This type of player will bust >his ass this year and hope for the money.

    This is true of all players in his same situation"

    He was in the last year of his Clipper contract and he didn't bust it there.


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  19. Gascon

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    Didn't mean to bruise anyone's ego, Achebe. I know I was a bit harsh, and I apologize. I'm just a little weary of posts that seem to blame Rudy for all of the Rockets' ills. I don't even think that was your intent, you just caught me at a particularly sensitive time. I'm a huge Rudy fan, and I think he's one of the main reasons for any success we have had or will have.

    Peace, brother.

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  20. COACH SAMPSON

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    Almu, Falk was with your man Jordan, That was perfect match David Falk = Don King and Jorda = Evander Holyfield

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