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**** YOU BOB MCNAIR

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Butterfingers, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Heh, this thread has pretty much flushed out every single person on the groundskeeper staff at NRG
     
  2. Harrisment

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    So you don't see anything wrong with this surface?

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  3. houactuar

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    Aesthetically? Sure, it's ugly. Maybe I should get a lawyer. My eyes hurt.
     
  4. Bandwagoner

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    If money was not an issue I would love to be a greenskeeper. Grass is my hobby.

    I'm just being open and anti reactionary. I don't step in line with ESPN and Bill Belicheat.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    That's fair, it's been an issue I've had a problem with for some time now is why I'm speaking out against it so much. I think that an inconsistent field with knee shredding seams or "holes" as Swearinger calls them, is simply unacceptable for a franchise worth over a billion dollars. I'm not sure exactly what route would be the best, but something needs to be done because more people are going to continue to get hurt until they do. The game is dangerous enough as it is, the last thing we need is to have a field with built in flaws that cause serious injuries.
     
  6. Nick

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    Just saying that you didn't believe Andre when he said he's never had a problem with it... in fact, you blamed his injury on the seams/trays which implies that you feel Andre is lying.

    We all see your position on it being of "poor quality" and the "worst" field in the NFL... too bad every single survey of all NFL players on field quality never mentions the Texans in the bottom 5 of grass fields.
     
  7. msn

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    OK, apologies for the temporary aside/thread derail--but what rock was I living under when Reliant was renamed NRG? When did this happen? What/who on earth is NRG?
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    What is more likely in your mind, that Swearinger just chose to make things up about the field and unnecessarily bashed it with some of the same things others have said about it or that Andre simply refused to say anything bad about it in public?
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    That happened this summer.
     
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    It's like Energy, you see, so cute.
     
  11. Nick

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    So back to my original point... you are trusting Swearinger, who has barely been here a year, to be the authority on this field and its "problems", over the guy who's played more than 10 years worth of games on it who says it isn't a problem.

    Again, show me the data that there are more injuries here than other fields... show me the data that players dislike playing on this field more than any other field. Show me the data that says players would rather play on field-turf vs. this field.

    I agree they need to do a better job of putting the field together and covering the seams... so as to squelch even the possibility.... but your crusade is still very circumstantial and is now based on the opinion of a 2nd year player who some would question his overall mental makeup (while stalworths like Andre and Cushing deny the field is a problem at all).
     
  12. HTown_DieHard

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    you can't discount the possibility of Andre & Cushing "toeing the company line" as they face the reality of getting cut this offseason.
     
  13. Cannonball

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    Didn't Andre just hold out and skip a bunch of mandatory workouts/camps? I'm not sure how concerned he is about about toeing the line.
     
  14. HTown_DieHard

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    Yes, and he lost a million dollars...

    As you can see, it did not get him very far.
     
  15. Nick

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    Please.... again, they're probably not going to be as dumb as Swearinger in terms of extrapolating his unproven suspicion that the field is extra dangerous, but over the years you'd figure something would be said (prior to the year before them getting cut). Also, if its such an inevitability, they shouldn't really care all that much.

    I will also say that no former players have spoken badly about the turf after the fact.... and again, none of these player-only surveys (with all NFL players) paint Reliant/NRG in an overly-negative light.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    You mean with the exception of the one former player that is currently suing over the terrible field conditions right? Other than that.
     
  17. Nick

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    The PED punter? I meant players who actually play a real position and are still playing.

    I equate his freak injury to as if he fell down the steps at the stadium.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Are we still going to keep calling prescription Adderall a PED? Seriously though, do you work for the stadium? You keep deflecting for them as if you are on staff.
     
  19. Bandwagoner

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    Kickers are people too

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    Was this the turf's fault or a dumb kickers fault?
     
  20. houactuar

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    Yes the one player who has something to gain by suing the owner of the field. And you trust that guy. Meanwhile Andre plays for 10 years, no complaints. JJ Watt plays here for years, no complaints. Clowney plays on the field for 10 minutes, gets hurt, and instead of football being a dangerous sport he blames the grass and some idiot like swearinger beleives it. Swearinger may be a fine football player, but he isn't a scientist who looked at data, he's a guy who bangs his head on other players. Smart? Probably not.

    Jadeveon Clowney weighs what 260 pounds, probably took steroids in high school, has spent years in the weight room doing squats making his muscles buldge and becomes too strong for his joints and injures a knee after 10 minutes on NRG grass and it must be the fields fault. Meanwhile JJ Watt plays here years, Andre Johnson more than a decade, and countless other players with no ill effect. But the guy who played here 10 minutes is a field expert and the only reason he got hurt was the grass? LOL Pullezz.

    I'm sorry, I don't trust a drunk Bellicheat or a clown like clowney or the swearinger parrott who just repeats what clowney told him. There's no science in it.

    I don't for one second think there is anything wrong with the field. Players are not injured at NRG more than anywhere else. I see no additional risk at all. Now Andy Dalton getting a dirty, illegal low blow by a 300 pound lineman after a handoff ? Head on head hits? Cut blocks? Those are real risks. An ugly looking picture of grass, possibly taken during installation prior to grounds crew fixing it or not. That's just BS.
     

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