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YOF vs. YOF

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by wizkid83, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. NewYorker

    NewYorker Ghost of Clutch Fans

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    Yao wasn't particularly pretty in the 4th QTR. But the team was up so much who cares. I liked how Yao played in the third though. He got an offensive foul, and those 3-sec violations. Hey - fine, I don't mind the guy being aggressive and getting those kinds of TO's.

    That's more encouraging from my perspective....better to be too aggressive then not enough. Yao will struggle as he now gets doubled and tripled team - all great players must go through this. They must learn how to adjust - it's just one more step in the path to becoming a superstar.

    Let's see how Yao adjusts....we know it might not be pretty at times...but one thing Yao has shown us - he hones in on his weaknesses and really does work to get better. For all his flaws, that's his greatest strenght and asset.
     
  2. boby

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    Was it still Deke whose elbow blowed on king's face last season(?) and made him wear a mask for a couple of months?
     
  3. Sishir Chang

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    That's a pretty good find but this post seems to be more about they feel T-Mac needs to score more than Yao so the Rox can do better. Not that the posters wants T-mac to do better at the expense of Yao.
     
  4. Sishir Chang

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    You're pretty much explaining why so many Chinese fans are Y(ao) OF. Just substitute "Yao Ming" for "Vince Young" and "China" for "Houston".
     
  5. boby

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    That's the logic I get lost here.
    1. Why a 55% shooting Yao need score less than a barely 40% Tmac?
    2. With Yao leading the score, we are 10W-2L this season. With Tmac leading the score, we are 1W-3L.

    Now please me why Tmac need to score more than Yao? Don't get me wrong, Tmac certainly need to score more, but why need to score more than Yao?
     
  6. Sishir Chang

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    ^ I don't necessarily agree with the poster you cited so I can't answer fully but from some of the debates I've heard here is that having a high scoring player who can penetrate and shoot from outside makes the offense more fluid, less predictable and more open. So having T-Mac score more improves the team more than having Yao score more.
     
  7. NewYorker

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    I don't think our success is a t-mac thing or a yao thing.

    It's a Yao-Mac thing.

    We need Yao-Mac to score 45+ points, 15-20 rebs, 10 assists, 3 blocks, 3 steals, shoot .450+ and have less then 6 TO's.

    If Yao Mac can do that on a semi-consistent basis we will be golden.
     
  8. txppratt

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    this team needs mcgrady to do better. and yao is part of that team.

    for you that don't know basketball... let me be the first to tell you: mcgrady is one of the most proficent perimeter players this game has ever seen. wanting him to do well is wanting yao and the rockets to succeed.

    in the few losses we have so far, it was mainly tmac, not yao with the subpar play.

    and every rockets player gets scrutinized on this board, but somehow if yao gets scrutinized we're picking on him? (becuase why?)

    you're on clutchfans which is a houston rockets' fan site. take your YOF **** elsewhere.

    and tmac needs to score more because he can make the game even easier for yao! yao has yet to prove he can carry the rockets year after year. until he does, having tmac attack the basket more and score more makes the game easier for all of the rockets (and yao is part of that).
     
  9. KaiSeR SoZe

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    your a YOH.
     
  10. pryuen

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    But the thing is TMAC rarely and seldom penetrates and attacks the rim like what he used to do this season. He resorted most of time brick-laying now.

    That is why we need him to be more selective in his shots, and not wildly jacked and wasted those possessions. He needs to do more penetration into the lane for close range jumpers, or do more of his passes/assists as a playmaker, instead of trying to get his scoring touch back, scoring < 30% on 20+ attempts.

    Do you agree??
     
  11. MacGreat

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    Yeah, it's pathetic that some Yao's fans would call anyone who criticizes Yao a YOH. But it's equally pathetic that some idiots would call anyone a YOF in order to make themself sound more convincing in an argument.
     
  12. boby

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    Fixed it for ya! :)
     
  13. rockets fan

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    I don't know dude. At least one guy here gives me the impression he doesn't care about the Rockets play, but moreso for the Mac-Yao fan rivalry.

    ....And he is:
    I'm no Psych major, but I would say he identifies with T-Mac on some personal level, and not with Yao, therefore he feels the need to root for Mac over Yao, often ignoring Yao's positive impact and blowing up his negatives out of proportion...I conclude that because he's a long time member, but something with Yao probably bothers him.
     
  14. txppratt

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    i would agree, but i am of the assumption that tmac is capable of shooting a better fg% then he is currently. most of the shots tmac is taking are shots he has proven in the past he can drain consistently. he has a devastating jumper, his release point is so much higher than the ordinary player because of his build. but again yes he needs to attack the rim more. no disagreement here.

    if tmac can elevate his fg% and score a little more... yao will dominate EVEN more and FACE LESS DOUBLE, TRIPLE TEAMS.
     
  15. txppratt

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    wow you're really reading into what this guy is saying. talk about putting words in his mouth!

    his post is 100% correct and it has nothing to do with yao or not connecting with yao on a personal basis! simply stated: watch the nba. not just the rockets. become a student of the nba game and how it is officiated - then you'll see what we're trying say. yao cannot do this without help. and tmac is great enough to actually elevate yao's game! the guards control the tempo of the game in today's nba. and if tmac can't exploit the other team, then yao will continue to face fronts, double/triple teams. be honest with yourself; yao has yet to show he can playthis level of basketball for a complete season. if after one or two full seasons of this type of play from yao - i'll agree that yao can carry the load! but you are lying to yourself if you think that already.

    YAO IS PLAYING AMAZING! but the rockets season is resting on tmac's shoulders.
     
  16. cmellon

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    There are three taboos to talk in this world: Politics, religion, and Yao Ming. Do not create a thread to talk about this stuff.
     
  17. blazer_ben

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    No matter how you look at it, if we are a truly legit contender, we should account for the bobcats, wizards and the wolves on the road.
     
  18. A_3PO

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    I'm doing a poll on this.
     
  19. ericmark

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    A summary for this thread: A can of worms is opened.
     
  20. mleahy999

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    The fact that a grown man even knows this scares me. How many feet does the restraining order say you have to keep away from Yao?
     

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