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Yi Jianlian -- Good at basketball?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by yipengzhao, Oct 16, 2007.

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  1. yao_fan_2007

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    Who said Yi is better than Yao already? Nobody said that.

    Whether Yi can be a better player than Yao is quite possible.

    Yao has already peaked in my opinion. He can't get any better because he has real physical limits. He will never be a defensive force that Hakeem Olajuwon was. He's not fast enough.

    Yi on the other hand, has plenty of offensive skills, but he's also got the potential to dominate on the defensive end. He's as tall as Nowitzki but moves much faster. The sky's the limit for this guy.
     
  2. DaDream

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    Yi is that of the dolphin in muddy waters, he must be the persavere and be a great man in the head of his. He will be greater than any human along with that of Yao. In perfect world Yao and Yi would combine to be grater than any other humen in world history...
     
  3. tinman

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    This doesn't count. He's being defended by Juwan.
     
  4. Royals Ego

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    I agree 100%. Yi has seen the struggles that Yao went through.

    If Yi has the winning mentality, he will be a GREAT player in the NBA.

    Can't wait until Nov 9. Can't wait
     
  5. abcdef

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    Even if Yao has peaked, if he can sustain this production for 5-6 years he will be a HOF center, on the level of Ewing. He is the best center in the NBA now and one of the two best post players.

    Yi might be Chris Bosh at best, and Tim Thomas/Charlie Villanueva at worst. He is not as good as Yao was in his rookie year, and he will never sniff Yao's production.

    Don't give me this crap about how unathletic Yao is or whatever. Yao has produced at a level that is highly unlikely for Yi to match.

    And you call yourself a Yao fan. Listen, I'm a huge Yi fan too but he's not going to touch Yao's level.
     
  6. bobododo

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    lol does Yi ever dunk with one hand? Almost all of his highlights are 2 hand dunks.

    Way too early to tell if Yi is going to even be good in the NBA yet alone be as good as yao. But his game is a lot more fun to watch compare to yaos. Yi dunks and yao rarely dunks even if hes next to the basket. He's faster then yao and more athletic then yao. lol lets hope he rebounds better and turnover less then yao.
     
  7. yipengzhao

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    My thoughts are that Yi will be good but likely not dominant... If you look at CBA stats before Yao came over he was averaging like 35-18... Yi never did that. I guess the league could have gotten better, but I just don't see him developing into the Dirk Nowitzki stratosphere of player.
     
  8. Royals Ego

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    Yi will be a superstar
     
  9. JustWannaChill

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    Whatever, you are just an idiot.

    Before you said crazy things about Yao. Now you say crazy things about Yi at the expense of dissing Yao. I am starting to believe what the other guy said that you are just a fake fan of Yao Ming and your purpose here is only to stir up controversy. We have a name for people like you and it's 'troll'.
     
  10. yao_fan_2007

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    LOL. Why don't you learn how to read? You go stir crazy misreading what people say, and you call others crazy?

    First of all, calm down. I don't know whether you're a Yao fan or a T-Mac only fan, but you've got a lot of emotion there. You must have a lot of RAGE stored up there, fella, due to all the things I said about T-Mac in the past.

    Calm down, and take a chill pill, like your Screen Name suggest. LOL

    Second of all, I have been a huge proponent of Yao Ming, and still am. But I am not so blinded that I can't see Yao's limits.

    Let me repeat this: Yao Ming has already peaked. True, he is the #1 center, and will have a HOF career for this sole reason: He's unstoppable offensively.

    He may be able to maintain this level for several more years. But he can't get better than he is now. He's already at his maximum Physical level.


    Now, you guys who claim that Yi is only average NBA speed, that's bull. How many 7'0 guys do you know that can move like Yi?

    Nowitzki? Yi's faster. I think Yi's like a Bosh. I think Yi's taller than Bosh and Garnett, but Yi has their build, and speed.

    But Yi has more skills than either. Yi can shoot outside, and as he gets stronger, he can develop a potent inside game. He's going to dominate, just like Yao.

    If Yi works very very hard, he can exceed Yao Ming because he doesn't have stamina issues.

    Yao can play 35 minutes. Yi can play 40+. That's a big difference. And Yi won't be winded during the 4th quarter. Yao almost always is.

    I am a Huge Yao Fan and will remain so, but I recognize his limits also. So far, I do not see such limits in Yi, and that is why I am high on him.
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    Are you actually trying to claim that Yi has more "skills" than Bosh and Garnett?

    Please step away from the pipe. Crack kills.
     
  12. teknokid

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    So Yao cant get better huh?
    Hakeem peaked when his atheletcism was in decline by inventing dream shake and baseline fade away jumper.
    Jordan had his 2nd career heydays with his fade away jumper in his 30's.
    YOU CAN GET BETTER every year even when your atheleticism is in decline. If Yao learns how to position himself on the defense and learn to box out, it does not matter how atheletic he is to become a better defender.
     
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    According to you assessment, Stromile Swift and Keon Clark > Dirk
     
  14. bobododo

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    Yao fan Yi has potential but man you need to calm down with the comparisons against proven players. I mean the guy hasnt even played in a regular season yet jeez.
     
  15. yao_fan_2007

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    Ok compare Bosh and Garnette with Yi at their rookie age.

    That is what I meant.

    I am not saying Yi is better than any NBA player now, but comparatively for his age, he is advanced.

    Of course Nowitzki, KG, Bosh, Yao are all superior to Yi. But I am saying comparing them as first year players to Yi, Yi stacks up well.

    Yi's potential is tremendous, way higher than Yao Ming.


    Yao Ming's already peaked guys. He has. That's not saying he's not HOF player. If he continues, he is. But he's peaked physically. He won't get better. Maybe he'll improve little here or there, but this is about as good as Yao will get.

    He will never be a great rebounder. Never. He's just average. 9, or 10 rebounds. His size and weight prevents him from reacting quickly. Yi is potentially, a better rebounder than Yao.
     
  16. teknokid

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    Now you change to he's peaked 'PHYSICALLY'
     
  17. bobododo

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    How do you compare Yi with first year players when he hasn't even play in any regular season games yet? I want some stats not just he's taller or quicker or better looking etc etc.
     
  18. yao_fan_2007

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    Nope, if you read the context, you can tell I always meant physically. Duh.

    Mentally, or skill wise, you can improve but phyiscally, this is as Good as Yao will ever get. He wont get faster. He won't have more stamina. He won't be a better rebounder.
     
  19. yao_fan_2007

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    Man..some of you guys can't read.

    One guy calls me nuts when he misread what I said. Now, another guy is claiming, I altered my stance.

    Please read the emboldened word. :rolleyes:
     
  20. yao_fan_2007

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    How? Well why dont' you ask the analysts and writers who do this with every NBA draft? Why dont' you ask why people are comparing Oden with the all time greats? Or Durant with a T-Mac?

    But I agree with your fundamental point. You can't and should not compare rookies with established players. But it's fun to theorize and hypothetize.
     

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