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Yi Jian Lian to enter NBA 2007 Draft

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by kingkow, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. WNBA

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    The "chance" is that you are lost even if you are talking about wave-particle duality in the quantum world.

    you dont say this to yourself: I am a 50% man 50% woman accoding to the population distribution. You are a single, known, test particle with fixed motion. no "chance" at all.

    Someone has showed a picture of Yi's graduation and other evidence indicating his age. it is not an issue of "chance" any more. it is 100% or 0%.
     
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    Interesting article by Chad Ford...

     
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    if the sample size is 1, then sure, it's either 100% or 0%. if the sample size is 100, 60 false age 40 correct age, and you randomly pick one out of 100. the chance of you getting a false aged is 60% and 40% for a correct age one. and we are talking about cba as a whole. so the sample size is quiet large. unless cba changes age for 100% of the players, then sure, no matter which guy you draw, he would have the false age. but i doubt it's 100%. i would say around 50% at most. which still leaves 50% innocents. but anyways, if you show me all the pictures with all the other evidence, i would lean towards he is 22 more than 19. but i would never believe 100% that yi is 22 unless some concrete evidence from an independent investigation team shows up. even then, i would still only belive 99% that he is 22 :D who knows if people are trying to screw him :p
     
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    Well if the age change practice is really that common in Asia and other parts of the world, Yi (assumed that he's older than his reported age) would probably have played against guys who were also older than their reported age too. A 15 years old Yi dominated the other 15 years old...or a 18 years old Yi dominated the other 18 years old...what difference does it make? So the two statements seem to contradict each other. The situation in those U18 and U20 international competitions in Asia is so bad that you have a big disadvantage if you don't cheat but you don't have much an advantage even if you cheat because almost everyone else cheats.
     
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    I hope the Rockets can trade up for him since his stock is falling.
     
  6. WNBA

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    it tells us:

    1) life is hard there. you have to cheat to achieve or you will be eliminated quickly. This statement applies not only to athletes.

    2) not everyone is cheating though. There are a big portion of them are not changing their age, so that some "wise" ones can take the advange of them.

    3) there is no such thing in China: official documents or laws. :eek:

    4) everyone is firmly, totally controlled by all kinds of bosses in China. that's why Yao , Yi, Wang and all other chinese athletes are so humble and docile....

    Yi is a victim so far. I would give him the job if I am a GM..
     
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    Well, I don't know much about China and I was not talking about China in particular in my last post that you quoted. I was just saying that age cheating in U20 or U18 international competitions in Asia and Africa is so widespread and serious that you would be in a disadvantageous position if you don't cheat because almost everyone else cheats. It's sad but true.
     
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    Some how i got a feeling Yi will be the biggest flop in this year draft class. He will be either drop out of lottery picks because of his age and the way his agent promotes him or pick in the top 10 but cannot produce some nice stats in the regular season.
    Cannot produce because he got no post moves plus he is too thin to play in the post. His only advantage is his athleticism but how fast and how quick when compare to nba Pros? He can shoot but his release is slow thus easy for defenders to block or disrupt his shots. He can play for open court/floor but notice he always take a dribble before going for dunks/layups. This extra one step will give defenders enough time to block his shots.
    I m ethnic chinese and i really hope Yi can prove me wrong in another 4 months time! :)
     
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    I suppose you didn't watch him play USA at the Olympics. :p
     
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    How many points, rebound and blocks did Yi has against the US? VSpan torched the US team and lead his team to victory. How is he doing in the NBA? Yes, Yi has a nice dunk against Gasol vs Spain, so what did it improve? Nothing!

    Though i would like to see Yi dunks in the NBA! ;)
     
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    Eric Weiss from draftexpress.com wrote a very long, negative piece about Yi on celticsblog.com. He claimed to have watched 32 full games of Yi to come to the following conclusions..., that Yi is a role player right now and needs serious work to succeed. Weiss also questions Yi's mental and physical strength. I'm no expert so you be the judge.

     
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    Well, Yi Jinalian scored 13 points (5/10 FG% 0/1 3-pointer, 3/4 FT%), 7 rebounds (3 offensive, 4 defensive), 1 assist, 2 blocks in 24 minutes of play against a strong USA team all composed of NBAers.....He was pitched against players like Dwight Howard, Joe Johnson, Elton Brand, Chris Bosh, Brad Miller in that game........

    Not too bad......do you think ?
     
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    Yi did very well against Team USA. But that's only one game under international rules. It could be a sign of what's to come for him or just an anamoly. It's really too early to tell. To me, Yi looks like a slightly more atheletic Channing Frye (keeping in mind that Frye is already very atheletic). I have no doubt about Yi's toughness in the NBA, but it's his strengh I'm worried about. NBA scouts see the same problem, and if it wasn't for Yi's early signs of possessing a healthy work ethic and good character, then he has no business in the lottery at all. Just too much risk he will turn into a 22yo Darius Miles. I'm sure Yi will be a lot better based on his work ethic alone. The rest depends on how much muscle and strength he can pack onto his wiry frame.
     
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    Who was Yao comapred to? I wonder if those so-called scouts are still getting paid.
     
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    Any Eric Weiss comments on yao?
     
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    Yi seems to be slippimg a bit to-day it was another drop from 8th to 9th!
    Could this be a trend and would the Rockets try to have him on their roster?
    Tracy could go back to playing Shooting Guard!
     
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    if the rockets get Yi

    this board will be down evrery few hours on a daily basis ;)
     
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    He dropped 1 spot on a mock draft and this is considered slipping? First, I doubt Yi gets passed Sacramento at #10 IF he drops that far (which I don't think he will). I think Yi will be in a Bulls uni next year.

    Also, the Rockets won't try to trade up and grab Yi. We would have to move up at least 15 spots which won't happen, plus we have nothing to offer a lottery team.
     
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    DraftExpress has been VERY down on Yi. They usually post well reasoned and insightful articles, but the stuff they have on Yi is IMO overly critical and borderline hate. I'm disappointed, frankly. It is true that Yi is a role player right now, needs work, isn't strong enough, etc. but isn't this true of every prospect in the draft not named Oden/Durant? (Oh btw, Oden called himself a role player and Durant couldn't bench 185 once, so these godlike franchise players aren't so perfect themselves either.)

    I don't know what they thought of Yao b/c I don't think they were around in 2002. NBADraft.net was, but their projections and articles are pretty inaccurate sometimes, so I don't put much stock in them.
     
  20. WhoMikeJames

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    WTF, when did this get to 500 replies?
     

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