Wow, you must be from the Jurassic period. Everyone know that Yao just paid a lump sum of couple hundreds of thousands dollars to his ex-CBA-team Shanghai Sharks as a compensation to leave the team. He never pays so-called half of his salaries as a compensation. You are really beyond me.
Really, how? Unless you have proof that Yao's contract actually contains a clause requiring him to sue third parties using his image, he could not have breached his contract because of the act of someone other than himself made without his permission. Pepsi would have had a cause of action against Coca Cola, not against Yao.
In China, things are twisted. However, I did reach a little bit by saying Pepsi would've sued Yao. That probably would have never happened because of Yao's status in China. But the point is Yao sued coke to protect his comercial rights, which doesn compare to Yi's current situation.
1. You have proof that under Chinese law Pepsi had the right to sue Yao? I have a law degree, have taken course in Chinese commercial law, and work for an international law firm. From what I understand, the basic contract law there are similar to the U.S. at least regarding the fact that you can't successfully sue a contracting party for breaching a contract when a third party acted independently without the contracting party's consent. 2. You didn't "reach a little." You talked out of your ass on an issue you have no idea about. 3. The precise point of the author was that Yao protected his commercial rights and Yi, on the other hand, did not. Intellectual property is a commercial right, and so is choosing your agent. They are both matters of business.
Unless you are Yao's agent or someone close to Yao, you cannot say for certain how it went in the end. From what I read, Yao paid his due to the CBA, and the amount was never publicly annouced. Many believe it's half of his salaries. Someone please post that Yang Yi's book. I definitely remember he wrote that Yao's family was angry with CBA's salary demand but negotiated an amount in the end. However, The point is that the writer forgot that Yao gave up some to gain some in China, and Yao is definitely not what the writer makes him to be. He probably himself doesnt want to be like that either. I dont blame him. Things dont work the same as here in China. Dont Americanize Yao just because he's been a stud in NBA for awhile.
Yes, they are both matters of business, exactly what I am trying to say. Nothing more than that, like staring down on the government and protecting the rights of following atheletes. Does China have case law system(binding all that) as US?
Yi is young and coming to a new country. He's learning the ropes. His agent is probably arranging everything for him from limo service to changing diapers. Yi may not even know it's possible that he has the right to fire the agent, nor does he know much to negotiate with his agent. He's paying for his youthful ignorance, along with his parents.
Why shouldn't Yao pay compensation in the form of a chunk of his salary to the CBA? This is not America, where bball stars are self made by playing in open gyms, playgrounds, and on high school AAU teams. The CBA and the Sharks trained Yao into the #1 pick in 2002. Without them it is quite possible that Yao would have ended up like Sun Ming Ming. I have no problem with the CBA taking a chunk of Yao's rookie contract. Without their years of training, Yao doesn't get that rookie contract.
BS, without the CBA, China's national team would still train him. Not to mention, scouts would notice a talent in any crowd, I mean a 6'10" soccer player in Africa was discovered after only playing basketball for like 2 years. If CBA was not there, and Yao had just the oppurtunity to show case some of his god given talent, whether it'd be national team, HS team or some other venue, he'd probablly would get a look by some basketball college program here in the U.S. and might've even accelerated his developement.
Sun Ming Ming is the tallest bball player ever, if he was developed from his youth in the sports schools like Yao was, he may well be in the NBA right now. One can train to gain agility and strength, and one can certainly train to improve one's skills. In China the place to showcase one's bball talent is to join the national team and compete in U-16 and U-19 competitions. There are no AAU teams (which are very shady and completely corrupted by Nike, beside the point), and the schools in China don't field sports teams, people are too damn busy studying their ass off for their tests, especially the college entrance exam. Sun Ming Ming wasn't noticed, and so now he is reduced to being a freak show, while if he were trained like Yao he may well have ended up in the NBA too.
Yao's parents were on the national team, I hope they got some some connections in the international basketball world. Once they realized Yao is gonna be a tall person or not, he will get training whether it's on the national team or some where else. I can also say that while Yao is unathletic, he's the most co-ordinate basketball player/person I've seeing fro his size, that's what's seperating him apart from other guys like Bradley and Mureasan. If Sun gets the same training, he might end up like Mureasan (a big if because he's un-athletic even for his size). but Yao has some natural abillities for some one his size that seperates him from the "freaks". He actually controls his body. It's the same difference between Shaq and some other guys his size (that fat Thomas dude the Rockets had wayyy back). They can control their larger than average bodies very well. And that's what sets them apart.
Yes, but Muresan and Bradley were serviceable NBA centers and earned their NBA millions and are now rich. Sun Ming Ming is still struggling to pay back the doctor for the surgery (I think?), and is reduced to playing in two-bit leagues (USBL, IBL, and now the Mexican League and possibly the Globetrotters) as a 7'9" freak show to make ends meet. I know for a fact that the pay in these two-bit leagues is very poor, sometimes they don't even get paid if the clubs don't have the money. There is a huge difference because Sun Ming Ming is basically a big stiff learning to play bball right now, rather than a semi-polished 7'9" prospect with some post moves, a decent shot, and decent agility (for a 7'9" guy, whatever that is), which is what he would have ended up as had he been trained in the sports system.
Eh, but I don't care about Sun. If Sun had being trained by the CBA (still seem like a stiff and I doubt his agility is gonna be that much better) and is forced to give back, that's a whole another topic. I still doubt he has the abillity to play basketball. Yao isn't comparable. He's from Basketball royalty and the first sign of potential he's gonna get training and help from somebody. He didn't need the CBA like you've stated earlier. Infact, I would say that the CBA needed some one like Yao a lot more than vice-versa. Superstars make and break leagues, and I would say emergence of Yao and to some extent Yi helped the CBA a lot more than what CBA gave back.
by this logic... Yao has improved tremendously as a player in the NBA. Shouldn't the chinese NT pay Yao for his service and the NBA for the training they provided to Yao?
Paying certain money to one's former ball club, is an agreement between 2 teams and the player involved. It's common practice in international soccer, where club B has to pay huge amount of money to club A, if they acquire a player from club A. It's a practice, a contract, all involving party agreed upon, nothing right or wrong. NBA doesn't have such practice, but Shanghai Sharks isn't a NBA team. I don't understand why the argument here. In NBA, you have your own rules, and leagues of other countries, they have their own rules. They are different, doesn't mean you are right and the others are wrong. You use "miles", and most of others use "KMs". Nobody is so eager to force anyone to change to the "right" one.
i have heard the same statement from a number of different individuals. i believe yao talked about it in his book.
LOL...68% of 9000?? thats pathetic...chinas population is 1.3 billion..and another several millino of asians in the US..i laugh at that sample size of a miniscule statistic..pretty sure Yi isnt that dumb either..if he is..he deserves to play for milwaukee.
You don't have a clue of how poll works, do you? And you need to take the basic statistics class in college again. When poll/survey organizations like Gallup conduct polls, the sample size usually is pretty small. Heck. Yesterday USA Today and Gallup announced their new poll result, indicating that President Bush's approval rating at all-time low of 29%. The sample size of that poll? Only 1014 adults. And this is supposed to represent the whole American adults' idea about their President, with only a error margin of +/- 3%. I know that specific Chinese website's online poll about Yi was not designed as statistically scientific as a Gallup poll, but my point is that the sample size is really not the problem.
http://english.eastday.com/eastday/englishedition/sports/userobject1ai2966286.html Chicago Bulls great Pippen tells Yi to sign with Milwaukee 12/7/2007 9:53 NBA legend Scottie Pippen has urged Yi Jianlian to end his standoff with the Milwaukee Bucks and sign with the team that selected him as the sixth pick in this year's draft. Pippen told Yi to look at the decision from a different perspective - no matter what his agent says. "I think Yi should know his agent works for him, it's not him who works for his agent. He will have to make a decision for himself," Pippen told China Daily yesterday. "Just looking at the fact that he doesn't want to play in that market, I think he should really try to reconsider and embrace the fact that not only are you a part of the NBA, but you have a chance to go out and make a name for yourself. "The city of Milwaukee is going to be very happy to have him there. They are more than open and ready to embrace him. "The Houston Rockets was not a top team when Yao Ming was selected top pick but Yao has established himself there and made some changes." Milwaukee picked up the 19-year-old power forward even after Yi's representatives refused the team access to his workouts as they steered him to a city with a large Chinese population. Bucks officials met with Yi at NBA Summer League in Las Vegas, but Yi's representatives are reportedly seeking to make a trade that will land him in a bigger market. However, Pippen said Yi is likely to get some guaranteed playing time in Milwaukee, and this could make it a good place for the Chinese star to "create his own world." "Michael Redd has established himself as an All-Star in the game but they haven't fared well as a team, so I think this is a great opportunity if he welcomes it," Pippen said. According to SI.com, NBA commissioner David Stern may involve himself in the dispute to protect small market teams such as the Bucks being shunned by stars in the draft. Mark Fischer, managing director of NBA China, would not confirm the report, but he believes Yi will be joining the Bucks in the near future. "We are pretty confident that Yi will end up in Milwaukee and enjoy it," Fischer said yesterday. "From a CBA (Chinese Basketball Association) perspective, the important thing is for him to be in a stable situation and get good playing time and come back and help the national team." Yi has experienced mixed fortunes playing for Team China at the Summer League in Las Vegas. He had just 3 points on 0-6 field goal shooting in his team's 88-65 loss to the New York Knicks on Tuesday. The day before he had 17 points in the last quarter and sunk the winning shot at the buzzer against the Cleveland Cavaliers. "It's a good thing that Team China joined the Summer League," said Pippen. "I know they will lose some games (because) of the quantity of games there in the US but it's great for them. "I think it will be helpful for the team to see how far they are behind the American players and what they need to improve ahead of the Beijing Olympics." Pippen, 38, spent the best years of his career down the road from Milwaukee in Chicago. Together with Michael Jordan he led the Bulls to six NBA championships, and he has been named one of the NBA's 50 greatest players. Pippen is on a four-day Beijing trip following a week in Shanghai where he participated in Basketball Without Borders, the NBA's global development and community relations outreach progam. Yesterday he attended a press conference organized by Motorola, a partner of the NBA in Asia. On Tuesday, he got an opportunity to have a look at China's talent pool by holding a training clinic with students at Beijing No 4 High School. He said the Chinese youngsters have a common problem - their bodies are not strong enough. He said they should do more physical training instead of just working on their shooting skills. "These players are two or three years behind those in American high schools," he said. Pippen said he would spend more time helping basketball development around the world in the future and denied any plans for a comeback. "I am not looking forward to coming back to NBA," said the former player, who last season had spoken of his desire to suit up again.