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Yet more ethnic unrest in China with at least 100 dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ari, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. SamFisher

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    I am very glad - my gift of TRUTH is meant to be spread and propagated to Sino-Chinese everywhere. It is a service I perform at my own expense, and I thank you for allowing me to shower the Netizens with my love and wisdom.
     
  2. carryunderskirt

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    Do you sincerely believe that American interests in those oil fields in the Mid East would remain secure if U.S. military presence completely vanishes? Of course we have contract law protection and international commercial arbitration, right? :D
     
  3. wnes

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    At the heart of this whole mess are separatism and the ways to deal with separatism. Most Chinese's views are that CCP's affirmative action policy (aka the reverse discrimination against Han) catering to Uyghur thugs are counter-productive.

    I call it utter BS. SamFisher has been making light of the killing of Chinese on this very BBS. Record your conversation with the Chinese you meet and play it here, we'll judge how accurate you deliver the resident CF lawyer's Sinophobia message and how much fun your Chinese friends find.
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    They would remain secure, if and only if, the owners of said resources were receiving symmetric benefit for the transaction. Otherwise, it would likely increase the possibility of conflict thus requiring the intimidation from a buyer's army.
     
  5. SamFisher

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    I call absolute BS on your call of utter BS.

    How dare you insult the Netizenry's sense of humor. Sura fall in a faint.

    If we do engage in a .wav off, I will require my own team of translators.

    PS - I would like to thank you as acting the foil for my Truthkrieg - it is proving very successful in opening eyes back in the Middle Kingdom.
     
  6. meh

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    You're welcome. And I wouldn't share them if they weren't so fascinating. I mean that. Every time I read your post on Chinese issues I raise my eyebrows and get a chuckle. Usually the posts are either a Chinese person who's overly defensive of China's policies, or just some random American who knows nothing and regurgitate the same ignorant insults that all Americans will speak of Chinese.

    But you're neither. You're like a mutant or something. I just go WTF!? I end up not knowing whether I should agree or disagree.

    Wnes, you need to not interpret every word you read literally. Geez, I know this is D&D, but lighten up. You should see the hint of sarcasm within my post.
     
  7. carryunderskirt

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    You neglect that it's our intention and purpose to not render "symmetric benefit for the transaction" to be received by our Mid East friends. Well the reality is, even if we want to trade with them fairly, someone else will drive in troops, squeeze us out, and force an one-sided deal. You may quack about Liberalism, but Realism gonna hit you hard on the forehead when you get out of your shell.
     
  8. wnes

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    The Lawyer from East Texas, I heard 1400 Uyghur thugs have been detained and are in desperate need of counselor. Will be you offering your service in Xinjiang? The NGO you are affiliated with is short on funds?
     
  9. Ubiquitin

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    Your hypothesis is invalidated by the lack of evidence from WWII to the present. Most economists agree that it is more affordable for a rival nation to send in a multinational corporation to attain the oil, than engaging in conquest for said resource.

    Also, liberalism and realism are both relevant paradigms with two very different focuses. You might know economic liberalism by its better name, Capitalism, and there is no other game in town.

    Also, can you show me where (with the exception of Europe and Japan until the 1980s, and the Bush Doctrine) where the United States has engaged in behavior that was incompatible with economic Liberalism. GATT and WTO, both created by the US, are hallmarks on the road to economic integration.
     
  10. SamFisher

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    Here's a picture of some dangerous armed Uighur separatist/bin Ladenists that I snapped in 2005 - warning, not for the faint of heart

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    ...and those kids probably now have the best jobs and go to the best schools - all thanks to the CCP's reverse discrimination affirmative action policy, in fact I hear they are starring in a Kashgar-based Uighur version of MTV's "The Hills" where they vapidly cruise around on motorbikes and donkeys and live lives of privilege indulgence - THANKS FOR NOTHING CHINA :mad:
     
  11. wnes

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    Nonsense. It's akin to grab a few less-privileged minority kids (whom you can always find) from ghetto and show that the U.S. is still practicing discrimination against these ethnic groups.
     
  12. SamFisher

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    There are no uighur ghettos - due to CCP pro minority policies, most Uighur families now live in split level suburban bungalows with two-donkey sheds.
     
  13. wnes

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    Perhaps they can learn a thing or two from the Hans in the same region how to improve their lives, given the government subsidies and favorable policy.

    Better yet, they can definitely learn from Rebiya Kadeer, the political activist who was a very successful Uyghur businesswomen under the same CCP's economic policy that has been in place for decades.
     
  14. landryfans

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    Interesting, go through all those picture taken by western media at 6 July.

    I did NOT see a single Han-Chinese woman or child, all men/soldier carry stick/weapon.

    And there are many Uyguran-Chinese women and children , men with empty hands, two women faint...

    Now, guess which ethnic group is the victim at 5 July?

    http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-44064.html#backToArticle=635078
     
  15. pirc1

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    That is pretty much par for the course, nothing new.
     
  16. splendidfish

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    The photos were taken after the uighur mobs killing. Hans were marching to show resolve in taking revenges, and were probably doing revenges in some cases where police could not prevent. Those bare-hand uighur women were appealing for release of their sons and husbands who had been arrested as suspects of murder. Now, carry on the ignorance if you wish, and in the long run, guess what, when the next 911 occurs, more Americans could be the "victim" of those Muslim extremists. Wasn't Bin Laden trained and supported by the CIA to fight against Soviet Union?
     
  17. KingLeoric

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    Yep. Sure a lot of people were carrying sticks. If they could find a picture of Chinese police man beating up a Uyguran, sure they'll put it on all their websites, but of course they can't find any. But these bloody evidence they'd never show you.
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  18. pirc1

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    Yes, you can bet if it was the Han Chinese or the Chinese government who did these acts, it will be the headerline pictures in every major western media.
     
  19. meh

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    Even disregarding what splendidfish wrote, how could you just come to that conclusion based on those photos? If there is an example of drawing conclusions based on pre-conceived notions, this would be it.

    This is like Rockets fans devoting hundreds of replies to random stuff taken out of context spoken by players or coaches.

    VSpan: "I play a similar role on Greece's team as a distributor/scorer as T-Mac on the Rockets"
    Rockets fans: "VSpan think he's T-Mac? LOL What a joke! He sucks!"
     
  20. pirc1

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    I have yet to see any photos posted here on any of the news papers or major web portals stories, do they have no access to these pictures? Or would that present a different view than the one the main stream media would like people here to see?
     

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