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Yet more ethnic unrest in China with at least 100 dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ari, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. Ari

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    Brilliant :D
     
  2. yuantian

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    hm... CCP never claimed to be a democracy. what are you smoking dude. and why doesn't other ethnic groups other than Tibetans and Muslims have problems in China? as a partial minority myself, and friends of Manchus, Mogonlians, and other southern groups, i have never heard or had any problems with race.
     
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    Because Taiwan is composed of han chinese and native taiwanese, not extreme muslims.
     
  5. Ari

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    or extreme violent Buddhist Tibetan monks, right? :rolleyes:

    Sarcasm dude. :rolleyes:

    Do not know, could be any myriad of reasons.

    Of course you have not, state media does not really like to cover stories of "disharmony" inside China itself, not unless it is forced to. It is a state of blissful ignorance that is encouraged and supported by the CCP. If you learn from a young age (like many do all over the world) that your country represents a socialist utopia envied and conspired against by the outside world, then you grow up believing in the tooth fairy. It is called brainwashing, and it leads you to never asking any questions or taking a critical look at the condition of people around you.

    A more obvious reason is that your Manchus and Mongolian friends were lying to you out of fear that you, being a good Han Chinese, would turn around and report him to the authorities. It is a spiral of silence that over time becomes self-reinforcing or self-fulfilling.

    Hear no evil
     
  6. deepblue

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    Dude, talk about being ignorant, I travel to China/Asia pretty often. People there are not all robots, most of them are actually quite informed. Whether they actually care about certain topics is subject to debate, but they certainly are not brainwashed, or at least the government is doing a terrible job at it.

    I would recommend travel and experience the area before making generalizations about certain groups of people.
     
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    sorry sam, both the United Nation and the United States grouped the East Turkestan Islamic Movement as a terrorist organization funded by Osama. According to the CIA, there IS no difference between them and the taliban - all one big brown scary bunch of dirty terrorists
     
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    oh boy


    who would have expected yet ANOTHER SamFisher vs the CCP defenders argument to break out in a thread about China?

    wow, you could knock me over with a feather.

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. MFW

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    Reasonable? Are we talking the same Ottomoton with a false sense of righteousness and arrogance to assume his opinions are right even when I show at every turn his lack of knowledge in the subject areas he claims to have knowledge of? Are we also talking the same SammyFisher who is a proven liar with an agenda?

    Haunt me in my sleep? Both have received so much anal reaming from me to last them for the next two years. You have just received the same.

    What's this? More posturing with no substance?

    Uighurs not causing trouble? Which other parts of China (other than potentially Tibet) requires regular curfew, martial law, high number of security forces? Which other region in China can claim to have had over several hundred, if not several thousand terrorist activities over the last half a decade?

    Bow down to their Han masters? So if a Han mob, for whatever grievances, decided to take to the street and kill/rape/burn/loot/rob/whatever, the Han police won't stop them?

    I can't help but notice you dropped your "engineered demographic shift" bullsh1t from your argument after you got proven lying.

    You also dropped the "Chinese occupiers" bullsh1t from another thread, so at least we are making progress.

    There is no bot here spreading any false information except for you. No Chinese poster here actually claimed every Uighur is a terrorist engaging in such activities.

    And there is no such thing as East Turkestan. If the Uighurs want "their own land," kindly leave Chinese land and return northwest of the Altai Mountains, at least away from the Tarim Basin.

    This is what is called irony. A proven liar with proven sh1tty information calling others brainwashed. kpsta, I hope you are witnessing this first hand. This is the reason why I insult certain posters, but not others.

    When called out on your bullsh1t, pull out the brainwashed Red Chicom line.

    Holy crap, every Chinese citizen reports complaints against the government? If that's the case, I have quite a few friends who would already have been arrested, along with their entire families.

    Very odd it isn't the case.
     
  10. wizkid83

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    I still don't get how the Tibetans and Hans are any different than Israel and the Palastine, but where are the free Palastine concerts?
     
  11. Pest_Ctrl

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    Because Israel is a democratic country?
     
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    OR maybe they don't have significant race related problems. As a partial minority is yuantian lying to himself too?
     
  13. SamFisher

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    .....and please state the basis for your presumption that every single Uighur "separatist" (which is pretty much all of them) is a card carrying member of the ETIM, even assuming that is true (and there is a good deal of evidence indicating that the scary "ETIM" is an overblown caricature of the CCP - it's no different than Saddam's alleged contacts with bin Laden).

    Or please prove their involvement in this rioting.....

    That is like saying everybody with an O' in their name is a member of the IRA.
     
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    Lets face it. It's always Sinophobes of CF.net vs ethnic Chinese.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    As I've stated before, I've been all over East Turkestan and have had extensive contact with their people - I even taught an english class there for a brief spell. My experience over there is far more extensive than most of the ethnic Chinese on this thread, who are arguing about the nature of a place they have never been to and people they have never seen in person.
     
  16. pirc1

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    Ask Ari, he knows it all.
     
  17. MFW

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    Why stop there Sammy? You also counted every Tibetan in Lhasa, Shigatse, etc to know Chinese/UN/WHO numbers are wrong.

    But the bottom line is those ethnic Chinese have "far more extensive" and knowledge of the area than your self-righteous buddies regarding this place they've never been to and a people they've never seen in person.

    Didn't shut any of their yaps.
     
  18. orbb

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    you guys? i thought you were american...
     
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    Did Palestinians get to vote on their condition?
     
  20. pirc1

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    What a joke, so a democracy could come in and take your land like Isreal did to the Palestinians?

    That is a good one.
     

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