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Yet more ethnic unrest in China with at least 100 dead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ari, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. pirc1

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    I agree with you on just about everything here.

    As for the educated feuling the flame, well you see that every where in the world, it is human nature. China is what I think US is around 1900, I think as the country open up more and more people will get more tolerant of differences. As China gets richer there will be more to spread around for everyone and there will be less tensions among those who are not getting the big pie because they will be getting a slice. I hope one day China can have truely a harmonious relationship among all the races.
     
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    Yup, the most imporant thing for the Chinese government in the near term is more economic growth and more equity among the people.
     
  3. yuantian

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    let me add to that. minorities also get benefit from education. universities have to pick the minority if that person has the same score as a Han. my cousins all got that benefit (heck, they aren't even full blooded minorities). further more, years i spent in china when i was a kid, i never felt racism. needless to say that i felt some racism here.
     
  4. sbyang

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    The problem is that US 1900 had very limited access to information. With all the resources available today, people can find out more information if they want. I hope the Chinese people can grow as fast as possible.
     
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    I understand the moral argument, and am even sympathetic to Uighurs in this respect, but hearing Westerners who have already benefited from colonizing other people say this type of activity is wrong... it just smacks of hypocrisy.

    For a current example, are you also opposed to Israel's colonization of Palestinians (who have it worse than Uighurs)? Are you opposed to USA's support of Israel that puts them in the position to do this? Before criticizing China, the US its own human rights issues to settle.
     
  6. wnes

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    I think he was referring to the economic system of early 1900.

    But with all the access to free information, the likes of Ari still can't answer the question of CCP's minority policies beyond exception to one-child policy. Irony?
     
  7. pirc1

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    It is not just access to information. Even today in the Us there are plenty of older people who have much less tolerant of things like bi racial relationships and gays and lesbians, the reason is their world view was formed a long time ago as they grow up. Things do not change easily or quickly.

    Look at all the posters who are not ethnic Chinese in this thread, can you say their view is balanced? These people grow up in free democratic world yet they only want to see things from one side. I do believe most ethnic Chinese posters on here have a more balanced view of China (still biased but more balanced) and its problems and really want a better future for China and all Chinese.
     
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    Not just the economic system, including the way people behave and judgethings. China is very similiar to US in the early 1900s.
     
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    Please tell me what's racist about acknowledging that the ClutchFans D&D PLA are pretty much all only here because they are also members of the GARM YOF Liberation Brigade.
     
  10. wnes

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    Take it to the mod (whom I believe was Jeff) who had issue of racist undertone under the guise of word play when referring to posters of certain ethnicity.
     
  11. redao

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    that's false.

    In fact, any Chinese who is living in mountain area or poor area could not get the equal education as other Chinese do. no good schools, no good teachers, no money, bad nature conditions, different life tradition .....

    It is not a racial thing because more Hans are in that situation than all minorities combined, but I can understand minorities' feelings because their whole race have been stucked in that situation.


    When real CCP was in charge, China did not have the money to help them.

    Now China has the money but CCP is gone and the government don't put people as their first priority any more.

    worst things are ahead.
     
  12. sew

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    Isn't redao renowned for being a Yao hater?
     
  13. wnes

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    Assuming the rest of your post is true (which is really debatable), I don't see how it contradicts what yuantian said. There are plenty of minorities living in the cities in China.
     
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  14. wnes

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    LOL ... stereotype fails.
     
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    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j794twyjYyjeOIdsKWwzCUhsgvUAD99BNQF80?index=0


    URUMQI, China (AP) — China's state news agency says the death toll in ethnic rioting in western Xinjiang region has risen from 156 to 184.

    Xinhua News Agency reported Friday that the dead included 137 people — 111 men and 26 women — from the dominant ethnic Han Chinese group. The agency says the other fatalities include 46 Uighurs and one man from the Hui ethnic group. Xinhua says the Uighur victims include 45 men and one woman.
     
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    how is that false? i mean, i didn't say anything about poor people. i was just saying about minorities getting bonus points, which my cousin did.
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Please elaborate on this rule - I will preemptively ask you if the domain name Sina.com racist? What about the term Sinophone or Sinophile - I'd like to hear more on this theory of yours.

    I do know you launched on a profanity-laced tirade when I referred to Hainan Chicken a while back on the grounds that its use by a non-yellow fellow constituted a vile racist epithet, so let's hear it.

    XXIA
     
  19. wnes

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    Sammy the lawyer, if there were a rule that's consistently enforced, it wouldn't even be an issue. You know it full well. Don't act like an innocent idiot.

    Same goes with your objection to so-called profanity. Not that you have never use profanity yourself, I asked did you have problem with people saying stuff like "WTF" (let's face it, profanity in the form of acronym is still profanity) on this forum and I warned you should be aware who you are against.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    Your profanity has despoiled this forum on many occasions - I have asked you as a gentleman to stop yet you persist.

    It is sad.

    :(
     

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