Wow. Just. Wow. No. You're not being condescending at all. I don't know what I was thinking... http://www.theage.com.au/news/world...who-killed-five/2006/07/27/1153816320602.html There's your link.
That's not my point. Don't whine about me being condescending, Feldman, then come back and be a complete jackass. Rock solid proof, right there. I mean, it's a New York forensic psychologist who disagreed with the verdict! In the New York Post! <---- very much intended condescension.
Good lord! I don't think you get it. That there is even a chance she can get out, and I can provide you with several experts that say she likely will, is the point. The woman should never be allowed back into society. Period. Do you understand the difference between a life sentence and life without parole? And exactly how am I being a jackass? By pointing out your condescension?
Feldman?? LMAO - although the first thing I think of is not Corey Feldman but the bizarro Kramer from Seinfeld ("It's Feldman - from across the hall.")
Compassion is understanding. I understand that if I had the same mental illness as her I could of done the same sort of things. She is not being rehabilitated, they are trying to cure her illnesses. It is two different things. She did not kill those children based on some sort of selfish motive. Her brain was not functioning correctly. She was living in a false reality. Here is a Youtube of schizophrenia patients from the 30's or 40's to view the illness with no medical treatment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyEbQwBJpvQ I don't see how throwing her in prison of killing her would serve anything. Only helping her and others like her would be doing justice to her children and society.
Good Lord! I do get it. Yes, there is a chance she will get out. I think the only way she will ever be let out is under supervision or if there are experts who believe that she is cured to the point where the state agrees. If that's the case, she's going to have to live with the fact that she is responsible for the deaths of her children. Do you understand that Texas does not have life without parole? Yeah, this is just super sweet, no jackassery on your part at all: Super. Sweet.
She's sane enough for that but too insane to know she's doing something wrong by drowning her kids. Some thing about cake and eating it too.
i think he's saying she understands it after the fact. like waking up from a bad dream and realizing you're its cause. i doubt very seriously she feels like she had her cake...i'm guessing, in lucid moments, she feels guilt like you and i will never know....along with the absence of her husband and children. if it makes me weird because i have compassion for that, then i'm weird. fine with me.
You're not weird to have compassion for Yates, you just have some humanity. I find it mind boggling that people want to treat her like she took out insurance policies on her kids and then murdered them to get the money.
I guessing somewhere not too far below the surface the crazy biatch still thinks she did the right thing and guilt is still many many meds away and even then it will be because she will have been brainwashed into believing guilt is what she is supposed to be feeling. And then of course the guilt will fade because she will be further molded thanks to the drugs again into believing she is a sweet girl who can't be held responsible for her terrible actions. /bleh, sick to my stomach.
Well it is too bad that the pissing match between Feldman, er Fatty and RM95 won't be able to continue now that this thread is in a different forum...it was fun while it lasted.
The complete lack of understanding of severe mental illness is as endemic in this thread as it is in our society and judicial system. It is a tragedy that this woman killed her kids and I understand the desire to punish her for this heinous act. However, there is a huge difference between saying that anyone who kills is "crazy" and being truly mentally ill to the degree of Andrea Yates. This woman provides us the true definition of "not guilty by reason of insanity." She not only must deal with her daily fleeting connection to reality, but when she is connected to reality she must deal with what she did. Her inner torment is worse than any punishment the judicial system can mete out. I hope she now can receive the level of medical treatment and care she should have received before any of this happened.
Yeah, but the discussion will vastly increase in quality for those interesting in having a serious talk on the matter.
This just sends a message of "if you're insane, you cant get away with murder?". insane or not, she should be put behind bars forever.
Right on! That will really stop people from becoming schizophrenic and psychotically insane to the point of killing people. Brilliant!
UPDATED: I don't think he is chilling in a mental hospital like Ms Yates. So . . . My argument still stands Rocket River *BONK!* try again http://www.taphophilia.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1729 'Homicide time bomb' cannibal gets life Contributed by Anonymous on Saturday, September 04 @ 19:25:01 CDT Sep 3 2004 An American convicted of killing three people - and eating the flesh of his youngest victim - was sentenced yesterday to life in prison. Marc Sappington, 25, will not be eligible for parole for 75 years. Judge Dexter Burdette also sentenced Sappington to six and a half years for kidnapping and two and a half years for aggravated burglary stemming from a carjacking. The sentences are to run consecutively. "You are the closest thing to a homicide time-bomb there is," Burdette said. Sappington, who was convicted in July, told Burdette the killings were motivated by a "will to live." At the trial in Kansas City, jurors watched a taped confession in which Sappington said voices he heard while high on the hallucinogenic drug PCP told him he had to eat flesh and blood or he would die. His victims were killed over a four-day span in April 2001. Police said Sappington cut up the body of his youngest victim, Alton "Fred" Brown, 16, then cooked and ate a small amount of his flesh. Sappington had planned to freeze the rest of the body and eat it later. Brown's body was the only one cannibalised. "He didn't have any mercy, and I ask you not to show any mercy on him," Brown's mom, Tammy Saunders, urged the judge. Sappington's attorney, Patricia Aylward Kalb, said her client was mentally ill when he killed but is now taking medication. Prosecutors said it was Sappington's PCP use that caused him to hear voices. The case was among the first subject to requirements in a US Supreme Court decision last year on when a state can forcibly medicate a defendant. The court ruled a state can't medicate an inmate solely to make that person competent to stand trial. One of the approved conditions for involuntarily medicating an inmate is when the person is considered dangerous.
