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Yates - Not Guilty by reason of Insanity

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by oomp, Jul 26, 2006.

  1. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    I'm still waiting for links that prove that no minorities or men have ever been found not guilty by reason of insanity.

    While we're at it, can some of you post your medical licenses and what not?

    Thanks.
     
  2. ArtV

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    IMO - She thought she was doing something right.

    And I agree with pg - I don't see how you can go 1 by 1, down the list of all your kids, calmly I might add, without being insaine.
     
  3. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Can you please show me any proof that no minority has ever been found not guilty by reason of insanity?
     
  4. Harrisment

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    That's the correct verdict in my opinion. I'm surprised it was reached, but I think it's the right thing.
     
  5. Rileydog

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    I'm glad that people in this thread are not the ones that decide what's a crime.

    First, for those of you who believe that insanity should not be a defense, why is that?
    - Is it because you don't believe people are really insane? I'll assume that's not the reason because the vast majority of people in this world understand that there are some insane people in the populace.

    - Is it because that you think if you kill someone, you go to jail, period. It doesn't matter whether you knew it was right or wrong; it doesn't matter if you didn't mean to? It sounds like this is your thinking. If so, you're saying that severely mentally r****ded people who kill should be sent to jail. You're saying that a 5 year old kid that shoots someone should go to jail.

    There's a difference between sane and insane.
    There's a difference between negligent, reckless and intentional killing.

    The rules of our system recognize that difference in what is required to convict/prove guilt, and the associated sentencing.

    If you disagree with the jury's conclusion that Yates was guilty, that's fine. But it's just crazy :cool: to say that all people who kill should go to jail.
     
  6. edwardc

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    ? are personal attack all your good for or are you just full of your self and
    NO I don't no more than the doctors .That testifed for and against this killer.
     
  7. MadMax

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    sorry, i don't know and i stayed at home last night instead of a holiday inn express.

    i hope you still think i'm the cat's ass, though.
     
  8. MR. MEOWGI

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    Did Susan Smith have a history of schizophrenia including psychotic hallucinations of voices etc?
     
  9. MadMax

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    it's a question of fact, not of law, RR. questions of fact are left for the jury.
     
  10. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I guess River's proof is that he REALLY is a mutant/superhero on the lines of Charles Xavier.
     
  11. Fatty FatBastard

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    For killing their child? How about you finding one that has been found innocent?

    And stop with the condescending TIA stuff.
     
  12. rhester

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    Guilt has nothing to do with sanity.

    She is guilty.

    Now if they want to base the punishment on sanity that would be more intelligent.

    Sentence her to psychiatric care or prison or whatever but let's don't confuse terms.

    A verdict should be based upon justice not fairness.

    Nobody that has ever murdered a defenseless child was in their right mind.
     
  13. MadMax

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    actually, under the law it does. because she couldn't form the capacity/intent to be a murderer. she certainly killed those children...but to prove murder, you have to prove she knew what she was doing was wrong.
     
  14. edwardc

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    OK MM i have a ? if a drug user kills someone and they say that they didn't know what they were doing was wrong should they go to the hospital or jail just a ?. :confused:
     
  15. JuanValdez

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    I don't know if I agree with the legal definition -- not knowing what you did was morally wrong. But, whichever, she was going to be locked up for the rest of her life either way. The only question was whether she was going to prison or a mental hospital. I don't see how people can be disappointed that she'll be in a mental hospital.
     
  16. Rocketman95

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    Here you go. You can read a whole book about it if you wish.

    More here:




    Didn't realize saying thanks was condescending. Learn something new everyday.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Can you Please Provide me a line that says
    a Minority has been found not guilty by Reason of insanty?

    Rocket River
     
  18. SwoLy-D

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    This case aside... isn't that sort of a lost cause? How could you prove someone "knew" anything? Isn't this more difficult? MadMax, I can prove you know I am MEXICAN. See how that's silly?

    I mean, I am now arguing for both sides, I see, but... man, you do ANYTHING to any kids, you get your ass torn by yours truly. :mad:
     
  19. MadMax

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    if you take a mind-altering drug, be it alcohol or other, you can't later use that as a defense to a crime, no. because they took the drug creating the danger.

    here they're saying she's screwed up chemically, without the assitance of drugs. and that she lost all reasonable concept of reality and morality.
     
  20. GRENDEL

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    Yeah, if I remember correctly from my psyc. classes back in school, in real life the insanity plea is typically a last ditch effort, reason being that insanity, legally knowing what's right and wrong, at the moment of the crime is extremely difficult to prove.
     

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