If u are saying CP3 was a potential star, a lot of rookies did fail in NBA, Is this CP3's second season or third? Do you think CP3 worth 20 million dollars now? What I am saying is that team has to take the risk for those potential to grow, or sometimes they didn't pay back as we expected. It worths the risk through. 2. The second question is related to whether this season is Yao's best season or last season, totally out of questions with playoff series discussion. we better back to topic
True, but what if we could trade Tracy for something more realistic. Redd's name has been tossed around (don't know what Milwaukee's plan is, but that seems like a more realistic deal). Or how about Tracy/Hayes to Seattle for West, Wally, Kurt Thomas and the 2008 and 2010 1st round draft picks they have from Phoenix. I'm just making stuff up here, but... Tracy for Kobe & Duncan (somehow) is obviously a pipe dream the other way. Tracy for multiple legitimate role players is, as you point out, certainly useless. But something in the middle...either get back a comparable player who's either healthier, younger or just a better fit, or role players plus some draft picks, etc.
Yao missed 3 games in his first 3 years in the league, then had 2 freak injuries 2 seasons in a row. I still find it ridiculous that people think of him as injury prone and not durable.
Wow, I was going to call you out when I saw a few other posters already done that. So I will leave you alone for now. Seriously, you just took stupidity to the next level.
Thank you SuperMario and Blake for wanting to keep this team together and not buying into the whole, "we are better w/o Tmac" nonsense that has been going around or we would be better with two above average PG's and SG's if we traded Tmac. The team looked awful on the offensive end at times yesterday but fortunately guys were hitting shots last night with consistency. For some reason guys like Luther Head, Scola, Brooks, and Battier are not as aggressive when Tmac plays and it has nothing to do with Tmac's play. He is getting the teams easy points. If we played against a solid defensive team last night we would have missed some of those shots. That is why the offense looked stagnant against Utah because they are an above average defensive team that doesn't give up too many easy buckets. You need a player like Tmac to beat the solid defenses of this league like San Antonio. Without him we can not beat the better defensive teams.
On average the opponents points per game is 1.6 less when T-Mac plays compared to when Yao plays without T-Mac. Now if you look at the median, the opponents points per game is 2 points less when only Yao plays compared to when T-Mac plays.
The question BETTER be whether the Rockets are better without McGrady or not. If they are, essentially you could flat out release him (I know it is not realistic) and you would be better. As DD said earlier, "addition by subtraction"
What I meant is that I didn't post this as a "trade t-mac" thread. I posted it to bring some enlightment to the subject. Whether you agree or disagree is up to you. In my opinion I think Magic is right. The two just do not bring out the best in each other at this point. Could it happen? I don't think so. Clearly I hope I am wrong on the matter. I also think that the 14 games Yao played without McGrady is a pretty good sized sample no matter who the opponents are. That is nearly a months worth of games.
Yao can not attack DT? AS or DH can? You must be kidding, man. You made two mistakes in one sentence. Can't be worse than that.
How are we comparing to last years time at this same point in time? We are a good team now that got stuck in a crappy hole early in the season because McLazy was present. If McGrady stuck to the offense against the Jazz we should have won that game. I'd like McGrady to stay also but I want the same McGrady to show up day in and day out...not mr shoot stupid 3's and not run the offense McSuckface. If thats his plan to have the inconsistent mind set I'd love to trade him for a lesser type of player...like a gerald wallace type.
Are you kidding me? DH can't even fight off single coverage by Yao, Amare doens't even see double teams a lot.
Stoudamire gets half his points per game from incredible passes via steve nash where all stoudamire has to do is reach up and put the ball in the basket
" The team looked awful on the offensive end at times yesterday but fortunately guys were hitting shots last night with consistency. " Awful on offensive end but hitting shots with consistency? It doesn't sounds like "awful on offensive end".
Unless your numbers a pace adjusted then Im not really putting to much stock in them. Statistically the Rockets are worse defensively when Tmac is playing
You can't just lump all of that on McGrady. It doesn't work like that. It depends whether the role players are playing well or not. It all depends on how the team is playing around them, that is key. If we get solid play by the role players around Tmac and Yao, not just one of them, then this team would be great.
Yao also has problem at the end of the game cause he is a liability to turn it over and that is if we can even get him the ball. He just isn't mobile enough for him to get the ball a lot of times. However I think this is Yao's Team
