Yao's response to the renew contract question in 2010

If the Rockets could choose between Yao and Bosh for the same contract, I think, basketball-wise, it would make more sense to go with Bosh. He's the more versatile offensive player, and he has the potential to be a very good defensive player (he was probably the best defender on the US Olympic team). I think he'd fit Ademan's offense better as well (assuming Adelman is still around after 2010).

Oh .. and he's four years younger. Honestly, it looks like a no brainer to me. But, again, the business side will play a big part in it. Yao bring in a lot of money, regardless of how well the Rockets are performing.

 

If Team Yao was smart, they would advise Yao to play in a metropolitan city like LA or NY. Houston doesn't have the right fan base or mindset for a world athlete like Yao. They can maximize Yao's prime years in the world stage instead of wasting it in Houston. It might be a good business move for Les to resign him but not for Yao.

There's only one other center that might be in the same level as Yao in this league and it's easy to see that Yao usually DESTROYS Howard 1-on-1 so if the Rox lose him, then not only would they lose basketball wise, but business wise as well.

Think about it, would McGrady signed here if Yao wasn't here. I believe that Yao's presence attracts FAs especially perimeter players. Have you seen the spacing that he creates for the perimeter players? He creates AT LEAST A FULL STEP of spacing for the perimeter. If our wings and guards weren't so bad at shooting, this team would be DEADLY.

 

the thing about bosh is he improves his game every year. and he's a willing defensive player.

rudy gay has shown zero signs of improvement THIS YEAR which means, he's not gonna improve a lot more.

that comparison that poster brought up was not close to what i was implying.

 

i guess you'll become a lakers/knicks fans if you left to those teams huh?

 

I know, I know. It's not a very popular opinion but think about it. If Yao is worth a max contract in 2010 he'll be courted by teams in bigger markets and possibly more of a chance at a ring. There's no guarantee he wants to be here, anyway. If he's not worth the max, we'll likely give it to him anyway to make sure he stays.

Chris Bosh is good and young. We can build around that. Yao would be 30. How long would we have to rebuild before he starts to decline?

Most free agents go to the place where there is more money or where there is a better chance at a ring. For these stars we won't have either to offer. They can get more money from their current team or go to a contender for cheaper.

 

surprised to see the bosh fever coming from you.

adelman's offense? you mean the one with the kings? is bosh nearly as "versatile" as a chris weber at his peak? best defender on team usa? can he guard many strong pf's and ctrs currently in the west?

bosh is not a franchise caliber player. that much should be clear.

 

HELL YEAH. Got a problem with that? I'm not like some of the people here. I watch BBall for ENTERTAINMENT. My life doesn't revolve around the Rox wins and losses. And I find Yao ENTERTAINING. Same reason why I watch certain movies because a favorite actor/actress is in it.

 

that's perfectly fine.

but the way i see it, by 2010, kobe will be into his decline and the lakers will have to start thinking "what now". i see no reason why yao will be particularly interested in the lakers at that time.

 

he said he wants yao to go to LA b/c houston doesn't have the right mindset or fanbase. so to him, yao would be interested.

 

I mean the offense Adelman has been successful with in the past. I'm not convinced that a Yao-centric offensive will ever be very effective. We've tried to build a team around him for a number of years, and we've never been anything more than a middling offensive team. Invariably, the complaint is always that we need to look to get Yao the ball more. But it takes a lot to get Yao the ball. The entire offense has to be built around it, and that takes away from other players. Adelman's offensive philosophy is ball movement, player movement, and maximizing the offensive talents of everybody. You can't do that with players like Yao or Tracy.

Bosh is much younger, and he's a great offensive option in the high post. On defense, he won't clog up the paint like Yao, but he can be a very good pick and roll defender as he showed in the Olympics. I'm not concerned with him guarding PFs or Cs in the low post. How many teams are there like that? We can acquire one or two good low post defenders with size for much less than it would cost to acquire a PF with Bosh's offensive talents.

What qualifies a player to be "franchise-caliber"? What criteria has Yao met that Bosh has not?

 

imagine that in the playoffs when games slow down. we'll be even slower when trying to feed yao the ball.

 

I mean the offense Adelman has been successful with in the past. I'm not convinced that a Yao-centric offensive will ever be very effective. We've tried to build a team around him for a number of years, and we've never been anything more than a middling offensive team. Invariably, the complaint is always that we need to look to get Yao the ball more. But it takes a lot to get Yao the ball. The entire offense has to be built around it, and that takes away from other players. Adelman's offensive philosophy is ball movement, player movement, and maximizing the offensive talents of everybody. You can't do that with players like Yao or Tracy.

Bosh is much younger, and he's a great offensive option in the high post. On defense, he won't clog up the paint like Yao, but he can be a very good pick and roll defender as he showed in the Olympics. I'm not concerned with him guarding PFs or Cs in the low post. How many teams are there like that? We can acquire one or two good low post defenders with size for much less than it would cost to acquire a PF with Bosh's offensive talents.

What qualifies a player to be "franchise-caliber"? What criteria has Yao met that Bosh has not?[/QUOTE]

the thing is this team has never truly been built around yao. in a sense, we still don't know how a consistent, night-in and night-out yao-centric offense will look like.

all the "build around yao" stuff has been on paper for the most part, largely because of mcgrady's impact. even when jvg was here, it's always a hybrid and favored mcgrady's impact.

the only times we've seen a truly yao-centric offense were 2 short time spans. first was when mcgrady went down 2 years ago and yao was playing like an mvp before he was injured in a freaking accident; the second is the flashes we've seen this season when mcgrady was also out of the lineup.

otoh, bosh has been established in the toronto team for a long time. where has he led his team to, even in a less competitive east conf.?

 

the thing is this team has never truly been built around yao. in a sense, we still don't know how a consistent, night-in and night-out yao-centric offense will look like.

all the "build around yao" stuff has been on paper for the most part, largely because of mcgrady's impact. even when jvg was here, it's always a hybrid and favored mcgrady's impact.

the only times we've seen a truly yao-centric offense were 2 short time spans. first was when mcgrady went down 2 years ago and yao was playing like an mvp before he was injured in a freaking accident; the second is the flashes we've seen this season when mcgrady was also out of the lineup.

otoh, bosh has been established in the toronto team for a long time. where has he led his team to, even in a less competitive east conf.?

sorry, this is what i meant to post. somehow it got messed up a little above.

 

You know with Yao he has so much loyalty to the Rockets I really hope that Houston gives him a good contract and doesn't disrespect his impact on this team. I would rather see Yao getting T-mac's 20 mil.

 

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/57214/20090213/yao_rockets_want_to_stay_together/

 

Exactly. Bosh is already one of the top bigs in the league and he's young. If the Cavs had offered Lebron for Kobe a couple years ago i'm sure they wouldn't have flinched in making the move, even though Kobe was better.

It's a move for possibly the best young big in the league and we actually have the opportunity to make it. I think its hard for some people to fathom moving a player who has been so consistent but it seems like a no brainer when you can get a guy in return who is only slightly below his level with tons more potential.

 

not all 29 others, but sure more than 10.

we're a little spoiled in a sense. yao is the most heavily doubled (or sometimes tripled) player in the league. it is an indisputable fact, no matter how you slice or dice it. many seem to forget that.

 

age doesn't always equal potential.

i'd be curious to know what big potential bosh possesses.

 

Agree. Yao fits to JVG's system better than RA's.

But Yao will end up with signing his next contract with Rockets. It's funny to see so many posts here discussing which city Yao will head to.
Guys didn't you watch Yao over last 7 years? If there is no very good reason, he will be waiting a contract from Rockets. If there is no very good reason, Leslie will make the offer.

Sadly that's not the best choice for both his career and Houston's attempt for a title. Yao's business value will not be maximized, too. I can foresee Yao will sign the contract and will be working hard here day in and day out but will not get anything beyond 2nd round in west conference. But what can you do? This is Yao.