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Yao's Rebounding

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tiger0330, Feb 28, 2005.

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  1. solid

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    Wow, I don't agree, but, as I said, the bottomline is that Ming needs a rebounding sidekick.
     
  2. McMingDynasty

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    Man at times like this I wish we had kept Cato and have him play the PF with Yao... atleast he can get some nice boards for us.

    As far as Yao's rebounding goes, I don't think he'll ever average more than 11 rebs in his career. If you take a look around, almost all the good rebounders are aggressive and athletic, and unfortunately Yao lacks both.
     
  3. sabonis

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    On that, we certainly can agree.

    Stuart
     
  4. gucci888

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    Absolutely. But Yao really needs to step up his rebounding (if possible). He's grabbed 4 rebounds the last two games, I just don't see how we can win games like that. Especially when our 2nd best rebounder is out.
     
  5. langal

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    Yeah, if Andre Barret was 7'6" and retained his speed, quickness, and ball-handling skills he'd be great too.

    Amare is NOT a good rebounder. Per 48 minutes, Yao gets more.

    Yao actaully compares quite well with other centers. If you want a center with great lateral quickness and athleticism, then you should trade Yao. 7'6" guys don't have those qualities.

     
  6. Easy

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    Yao plays fewer minutes and grabs about the same amount. Per 48 min. Yao's avg. is 12.57, Amare's is 11.40.
     
  7. DeAleck

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    I wish once, just once, that a NBA team would sign me up for a game, hopefully against the Pacers. All I am asking for is just 1 minute on the court!

    In the first minute, I want my teammate to provoke Artest and Jackson (I will buy the book "Trash Talking for Dummies" for my teammate). After Artest and Jackson both clobber my teammate and get ejected (I will pay my teammate with one year of my salary for this), I will beg my coach to let me do the technical freethrows (I will practice freethrows for six month prior to this, of course). If I make two and get two points, I will leave the game and thus end my NBA career.

    Now, forever from now on to the rest of my life, I can brag to people that I average 96 points/48 minutes in the NBA. If Carlisle also gets teched up by protesting, that would be even more awesome. 144 points/48 minutes, :eek: :eek: :eek: that would surely be an NBA record. Man, I would own Chamberlin...
     
  8. Fegwu

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    The more reason why I would pass on Stromile and PF forwards like him who are not natural rebounders.

    Tyson Chandler kind of "rebounder" is the answer but he is a restricted free agent + his questionable back and well as his below average offensive skills.

    If we draft a PF in the first, I am almost certain that is going to be a banger power forward and a great rebounder but I fear that ther may not be one available when our number is called.

    I remain excited about the prospect we have in Malick Badiane. He could be our Dalembert who oh btw is a RFA as well IIRC.
     
  9. snowmt01

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    I admit I am often pissed off by Ming's rebounding effort.
    The things I hate the most:

    1) Butterfingers
    2) "Team rebounder". Sometimes he just boxes out with
    no intention to fight for rbs, looking lazy, soft, and weak.
    3) Volleyball rebounds
    4) Flopping. Dude, you are 300 lbs.
     
  10. isoman2kx

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    he's averaging 11.3 a game






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    NBA LIVE 2005 muahahahahaha
     
  11. rm365

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    Well... when going for boards on defense, Yao basically fights for inside position and hopes the ball bounces off near the vicinity of the rim. Unfortunately, the past two games, there was a ton of long rebounds or rebounds where the ball flies to the other side where Yao isn't standing (and Sura wasn't there to get those long ones).
    Great rebounders like Rodman were able to sense where the ball was probably going to bounce and start heading in that direction before the ball even hits the rim. Yao obviously ain't quick enough to do that. I think Yao is ok on the boards. A few times last game he didn't box out his man well enough but overall, he was decent. I think he needs to be more aggressive though. Be like Deke and swing those elbows when guys try to abuse him or rip rebounds away from him. Give a ref a middle finger once in awhile... crash the offensive glass more often.
     
  12. langal

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    So rebounds per minutes has NO credence to you at all?

    I agree that prorating stats can be deceiving, but when both guys (Yao, Amare) are averaging over 30 minutes a games, it can make sense. It's enough of a sample to draw some conclusions from.

    By your logic, Steve Francis is a better rebounder than Deke.

     
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    Yao needs to learn to fight for rebounds. The dude is 7'6'', and the opportunities to rebound are much greater. I think everyone sees the rebounds that he could have gotten if he had tried more. I think he tries too much on the offfensive end to get offensive rebounds. However, he doesn't try enough on the defensive end. Securing the defensive rebound is an absolute must for the Rockets. The Rockets' defense is stifling and it requires a lot of energy. Giving out 2nd opportunities is just a killer. It kills team morale and give fans fits. When Yao recognizes that there is a defensive rebound that he has an opportunity to get, he needs to put in more effort into getting that rebound. Who has the memory of Zaza Pachulia grabbing that rebound away from Yao? Noone is expecting Yao to fly around the court to get the long rebounds. However, the dude needs to corral the rebounds he can get to and not let the opponent just grab it away right above his head.
     
  14. rm365

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    Also, I think the one of the problems is the foul trouble the past two games... the refs got him walking on egg shells so he was a little more hesitant to bang down low for boards. He didn't box out his man properly like 4-5 times yesterday.
    And I disagree, Charvo... Yao crashing the offensive glass is a great idea. I've seen games where he does it really effectively, and its almost an automatic 2 points if he gets it.
     
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    Crashing the offensive glass is also a HUGE reason why he is in foul trouble. Take the Jazz game for example. He knocked down a Jazz player trying to get an offensive rebound. That was foul #3. It was game over for Yao from that point on. Referees give the benefit of physical play to the defensive rebounder. The offensive rebounder is usually the one who gets the loose ball foul.
     
  16. rm365

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    I don't remember that one... Yao got one tickytack foul bodying up Okur when he tried to post Yao up, one foul when Eisley drove into Yao and flopped, one where he and AK47 fought for a loose ball (and AK falls to the floor), and one where he went across the lane for a post up but some Jazz player flopped big time. All in all, 2 BS calls and 2 borderline legit ones (if he were Duncan, he would have had zero fouls called on him tho).
     
  17. Fegwu

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    Keep your eyes on the ball Yao......

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  18. Easy

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    Yao plays more than 30 mpg. Nuff said. As langal points out, by your logic, Juwan Howard is a much better rebounder than Mutombo. And Ward is a better rebounder than Weatherspoon. :eek:
     
  19. DanTanna

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    Ummm, Yao is/has:

    1. Very very bad hands
    2. No verticle leap
    3. Midgette length arms
    4. Slower than PLATE TECTONICS
    5. Physically weak
    6. As agressive as shampoo
     
  20. DeAleck

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    Let me talk about some other crazy things I always wanted to do. Such as acting in a movie, building a super-computer, painting an ageless masterpiece, you know, those crazy dreams people had as children.

    Now, let see how you two can reply and fit Yao and Amare in your posts... in response to my "logic".
     

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