My wife has a nice fake Gucci purse that came from China. It looks real to me. But the fake Rolexes that come from China are too light; you can tell just by holding them they are fake.
I've read all the articles of this Yang Yi guy on his website. It seems most of them are pure garbage except those "exclusive Yao interviews".
I was told that on a real Rolex, the second hand swings smoothly instead of the second-by-second 'tick' you see on normal watches. Never having owned a real Rolex, I have no idea. Just FYI, next time you're in China on a shopping trip. But for the discount shoppers amongst ya, if you can find someone to bargain for you... the markets in China are a wind-fall. Large Northface backpacks for $4, various Air Jordans for $15...
I'm coming into this late, but I got to tell you that there is a big question mark in my head whether Yao Ming could have said this: <blockquote><hr> Before the deadline, I heard that they tried to trade Griffin and Mobley for Elton Brand. But I didn't hear about it again. <hr></blockquote> If he did say that, he needs to be severely reprimanded by Carroll Dawson. I now believe Yang Yi is inventing words. I don't believe in a second Yao Ming would breech a very, very sensitive subject like a trade, nor do I believe Carroll Dawson would breech this subject with his own players, either, so how would Yao even know? Is Yao Ming talking about media rumors, because we have seen no word in the media regarding Griffin/Mobes for Brand? Someone please tell me where that was ever written by a professional pundit. In China? I certainly do not remember Clutch ever reporting this, and he has ever chance to do so.
HP, If this conversation was real, I believe Yao wasn't talking about insider info, just rumors. There might not be rumors in the mainstream media out there, but the trade idea was certainly entertained here on this board. And you know how ideas here "leak" out. I tended to believe in Yang Yi in the past. But after last night's game, it is clear that Rudy had not shaken up the lineup after we lost badly to Detroit. That is something Rudy was supposed to have said before the Pistons game in that interview. Now I am beginning to suspect that it's fabricated.
You know that wasn't even a direct question, and Yao was supposed to have offered that info. I've never heard of a player mentioning a rumor (and this supposedly from cc.net only) in anything other than complete jest or sarcasm, and usually about rumors concerning themselves. It is just unbelievable, especially since Yao supposedly did not use the word "rumor." Yang Yi's translation implies Yao was referring to something more than jest. In fairness to Yang Li, this was reported by Jonathan Feigen this week that Rudy was considering changing things up. I didn't interpret that as immediately, nor does Yang Li's quote really mean immediately. I just don't think Yang is truthful in the trade quote, or Yao was laughing and Yang doesn't realize that US sportswriters never mention players mentioning teammates being traded and leave any interpretation about whether it was a joke or not. I guess maybe I should just say that I don't trust the BBS's interpretation of any Chinese interviews with Yao Ming. I only trust Colin Pine's translations now, which means that I only trust quotes in US newspapers. Easy, did you catch that the Cantonese interviewers in Toronto decided to interview Yao in English, apparetnly due to lack of ability to understand each other.
HP, I did not catch the Cantonese interviewer thing, but it wouldn't surprise me because many Cantonese speaking people are not very fluent with Mandarin, and Toronto is full of Cantonese speaking people. Now let me try my best to translate as closely as possible the most controversial quote of this interview. See if you catch anything there. YY: Whether the team can get into the playoffs or not, this summer has got to have some adjustment, so that the structure of the team may be more reasonable next season. YM: Today before the game <against the Pistons>, Rudy has already put out the words. If we didn't play well again in this game, he would surely adjust the team. This year's trading deadline has already been past. Let's just wait till next season. In fact, not long before the trading deadline, I heard that they wanted to trade Eddie Griffin plus Mobley for the Clippers' Brand. But then nothing happened. On the first part, it sounds like he meant that after not playing well IN THIS GAME, Rudy would make changes. That's why I took it to mean immediate changes. I think that the most natural interpretation. But i agree that "changes down the road" might also be a possible interpretation (just not as plausible, imo). On the second (the trade) part, the quote doesn't give any emotional overtone. So it's hard to judge whether it's a jest or something serious. It sounds like a matter-of-fact kind of tone to me. My feeling is that, (if Yang Yi is truthful) Yao seemed to think that the trade talk was a well-known thing. That's why I took it as not some insider info. That said, Yao did sound like he thought a trade (or a change) would be good for the team. Also, Yang Yi didn't ask a direct question. But he never does. He always just "talk" with Yao and kind of prompt Yao to respond to his comments.
You haven't seen mine yet. Mine is slightly heavier than my friends real rolex and keeps better time. It also sweeps just like a real rolex. I couldn't justify buying a real one since I have a few other expensive watches and Rolex's are not that good in terms of quality. There are some real nice fakes in Asia, you just need to know where to go.
Mine turned yellow after about a month. It did have the sweep, but was super light. That was a few years back, so the quality may have gone up. I remember once or twice hearing about the cops doing a sting on the shops on Harwin to bust the sales of the fake Rolexes.
too bad Yao Ming won't be a Rocket after his contract expires. I am sure he'll realize that he will be better utilized elsewhere and look for a place to play on a good team.
When I read Feigen write about it on Monday and quote Rudy, it was definitely a "we are considering it for sure" type thing. When I read Yao's quote, I thought, well, that jives with how Rudy would break it to them, and it was also easy for Yang Yi to just rip that out of Feigen's quotes from the day prior. We have definitely seen Chinese newspapers plagerize Clutch's front page. And not so surprisingly, the Rockets have flat out said the Chinese newspapers have incorrectly reporting a Kings/Rockets preseason game in China. That has not been closed, yet, according to the Rockets president, George Postolos. My reading is based soley on my understanding of how Rudy operates with his rotations. I don't consider your reading of "immediate" changes to be a natural interpretation of Rudy's comments, especially given Feigen's quotes from Rudy. Rudy would not make a change between a back-to-back road game. The more likely interpretation of Rudy saying such a thing is "count on it happening," but not until they get a practice (or so) to discuss it and get on the same page.
If any of you guys interested in listening to a REAL Yao Ming's interview, there's a link on Rockets.com. It's Yao Ming's almost weekly interview with a local chinese guy in Real Video, so you see what he actually said. Here's a gist of what he said about the team in the most recent video interview on Rockets.com: Yao said the adjustment to play with our guards are easier for him than for the two guards, his words suggests that Rockets team has done very good thing try to adjust to him; Yao also said during the previous several games (Boston, NY, Washington), the opposing team shoot really well. (I think it's because the lack of defense intensity by the whole team) The interviewer ask Yao why he's getting less defensive rebounds, and it's a center job to grab more rebounds. Yao replies it doesn't care if he gets less rebound, as long as it's not the opposing team gets the rebound (he's willing to let the other teammates to have a opportunity to grab some rebounds so long as the ball doesn't fall into the enemy hand). Yao said these teams would not let him alone, they try to deny him any touch of the balls. Yao also said, Mo Taylor is a big guy with small guys skills (shooting,etc), it's really good. On Rockets.com, in the box Yao-O-Meter, Click Interview... From what I heard from those interview, the Yang Yi guy's so called "Interview" sounds really fake.
<blockquote><hr> From what I heard from those interview, the Yang Yi guy's so called "Interview" sounds really fake.<hr></blockquote> thx for the link. rvpals. I believe Yang Yi's interview is fake, too, or at best, tolerated by the Rockets and Yao to appease the Chinese homeland media.
HP, Did you lose your coolness lately? Rattled by the "Chinese" interpretation of that Cat's interview? I am dissappointed
Man, this is almost the hottest topic on this BBS during these days. And the most controversial quote of the interview is something like this: YY: Whether the team can get into the playoffs or not, this summer has got to have some adjustment, so that the structure of the team may be more reasonable next season. YM: Today before the game , Rudy has already put out the words. If we didn't play well again in this game, he would surely adjust the team. This year's trading deadline has already been past. Let's just wait till next season. In fact, not long before the trading deadline, I heard that they wanted to trade Eddie Griffin plus Mobley for the Clippers' Brand. But then nothing happened. Come on guys, Yao didn't tell us where he got such kind of information. Maybe it just came from rumors. In Chinese, Yao did say "I heard", but telling from the context, you didn't know whether it was a rumor or kinda insider information. From my point of view, I think it was just a rumor. Thus, were I the translator, I would have translated it into something like I heard a rumor that.... or It was rumored that....
Aside from not understanding the connection to "that Cat's interview," I don't know. I have an 8 month list of flat out incorrect info coming from Chinese media and being mentioned as fact here. Yao saying he heard of a trade is the last straw. Show me one player in the NBA who has ever mentioned a trade that wasn't professionally published (to include Clutch's front page--Clutch never mentioned CM/EG for Brand) or a trade that wasn't about "rumors" of the quoted player or wasn't said in jest or sarcasm, then I'll retract my comments and say I lost my cool. Do you realize a Chinese paper published on their front page an article about the US Congress wanting to move the capitol of the US...this was plagerized from the satirical publication...The Onion. Plagerism and exaggerating, or flat out invented facts are not cool when they generate 6 pages in this forum. Notice I didn't lose my "cool" until page 5.
Well, just give this to RT or CD. If it's true that they planned to trade Griffin and Mobley for Brand, then Yao must have said it to Yang Yi. Otherwise, Yang Yi would have no way to know the exact trade plan.
