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Yao's expiring contract - would ya?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Dec 17, 2010.

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Would you trade Yao and his contract this year?

Poll closed Dec 27, 2010.
  1. Yes - Whatever is better for the team

    69.2%
  2. No - Keep him out of loyalty

    30.8%
  1. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

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    Perhaps but look at the guys you are talking about: Brand, Arenas, Ben Gordon, Baron Davis. Yeahhhh... Not exactly the types of players they need to be looking at when it's time to start over. Jamison is going to want to play where he has a shot at winning. That ain't Houston. And as I explained, Philly now likes Iggy so I don't see them parting with him.
     
  2. AggieRocketsFan

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    It seems as though Yao will be most valuable to us as an expiring contract since there aren't many players out there available that would improve our team in the long run. However, I would be willing to trade him if such a move was available.

    If we could somehow get in the Melo deal with the Nets/Nuggets and get Nene then it would be perfect.
     
  3. htownrox1

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    Why does everyone keep suggesting a trade for Melo??? Melo has already said he would only agree to an extension with New York or New Jersey. He does not want to come to Houston and will not sign an extension. How hard is that to comprehend????
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yeah, but now we could get in the discussions with Denver and not care if Melo wants to go to NY.

    It is a no risk situation if you traded Yao for him......and we could be in a S&T situation at the end of the year.

    DD
     
  5. abc2007

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    Why would Denver do that?

     
  6. Old Man Rock

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    Roy has more value than Yao right now and the Blazers owner is not worried about money.

    Iggy has much more value than Yao right now. They can and will get more than an expiring in fact if its about money they can dump him on cleveland who has Lebron's TE to abosorb him for a draft and they don't have to spend anything.

    Denveer would be happy to trade Yao for Anthony if we include martin and 3 first round picks.

    Most of the bad contracts where dumped last year. Brand is probably still available as is Gilbert Arenas. Maybe there is something else out there but not many salaries close to Yao's size. Which means 2 for 1. Iggy and Brand for Yao and Patrick and a 1st. I might consider that but Les won't trade Yao unless the other team is willing to buy him out and we can resign him at some point.
     
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  7. htownrox1

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    Eh.. No. We need a center badly. I love Melo, but I would not use him as a half a season rental only to lose him after the season, even if it was a S&T.
     
  8. J-Man

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    I voted yes because Yao is officially done with this injury.
    But no one will take him...
    He WILL end his career as a Rocket and a Rocket only!
     
  9. lalala902102001

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    Let's see: if you trade Yao's contract you get some value in return; if not you get nothing when the contract expires. It's a no brainer.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    If they decide to rebuild, then it might be the best deal for him....clearly the deal would be picks etc too....

    I doubt it would happen, but if they didn't like the Knicks offer, then taking one from Houston that is only for a rental...why not?

    I would honestly be targeting Nene, or Chris Kaman.

    DD
     
  11. JimRaynor55

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    Trade Yao after talking to him and telling him that he'll be welcome to sign with the team again in the future, if he's well enough to play. Are there any teams right now with legit All-Stasr, but also a desire to dump salary and rebuild?

    You don't trade a monster contract for multiple inferior pieces. That's because even multiple effective players still take up multiple roster slots, so they'd really be replacing Yao and one of our other players on the floor (thus lowering the marginal benefit of the deal). This team is already deep, it just needs an elite player to lead it.

    Also, you don't look to guys like Kaman or Iggy to be your team's savior. They're basically the opposite of Moneyball players. Iggy has 4 more years on his contract and will be paid like an All-Star by the end of it. Although his salary is lower, Kaman is very well paid himself. Despite the fact that he's been injury prone as well, and has in fact been a below-average player for his career. Don't let his sole borderline, flash-in-the-pan All-Star selection last season fool you, the way Jamaal Magloire's fooled people several years ago.

    Morey stays the hell away from guys like these.
     
  12. abc2007

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    Melo is still playing great and able to sell tickets. Denver would ask a high price.
    I don't think the rockets would give the nuggets multiple 1st round picks just for half season Melo renting. The rockets are in rebuilding mode, and themselves need 1st round picks.

     
  13. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    It would make sense to trade Yao if we thought we could get something in return to make us a contender - but we're so far away from that I can't see how any trade could accomplish that.

    Adelman isn't the right coach for this team. He needs a veteran team with a lot of smart players. He's not great at developing players in my opinion and they really don't listen to him because he constantly talks about effort and execution and it's still really poor.

    We shouldn't trade Yao so we can be mediocre and an also-ran. I think we should just let his contract expire and be a classy organization. Trading away an injured player is just kinda debasing and won't do much for the Rockets brand. Showing loyalty to Yao will mean more.

    Plus you never know what happens down the road.

    It's time to rebuild, and that means Yao's expiring contract is valuable to us in that it expires and leaves us with cap space.
     
  14. No Chance

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    Orlando would be a likely candidate for dumping some salary at trade deadline. Gortat +other filler. I think they have a larger payroll then they want.
    Most of these trades have us taking back more players then we have room!
     
  15. JimRaynor55

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    As a big Yao fan, I think Yao should be traded. It will be a fake trade no matter what, done just to satisfy technicalities so that the other team could dump salary. Everyone will know that. It's considered a valid transaction. Yao will never have to play for the other team.

    As I said, just talk to Yao first and tell him that the team isn't abandoning him or banishing him to another city. He could resign with the Rockets after this year.

    Get another star player and keep Yao anyway. The Rockets would profit immensely.
     
  16. abc2007

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    I think what the rockets can do is to buyout Yao's contract. They can buy it in a lower price to make them under the lux tax line.
     
  17. abc2007

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    Of course, if Yao's salary is paid by insurance company, that's an another story.

     
  18. rockets934life

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    They would require us to take back Lewis and that is one UGLY contract.

    Rox get Lewis and Gortat

    Magic get Yao, Lee and JJ

    Not sure i'd ever consider that.
     
  19. Rockets1988-

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    I cant believe no one else has said anything about this r****ded trade. In no way does this make sense whatsoever for any of those teams. Houston basically gets a starting 5 for for 2 expirings, picks, and battier. Dude what are you smoking?
     
  20. ROX_fan_CT

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    You must be retarted to think that getting this much for Yao+Battier+Jefferies expiring contracts is not worth we would be getting in return.

    I'm not saying that we necessairily keep the player in return, but could then flip them for other assets. Those players are still servicable for other contending teams who would gladly give you picks or compensation for them. Not to mention look at the lengths of their contracts. Next year they would be coming off the books anyway.

    I swear some of you are so focused on TANKING and gambling on the lottery thaat you fail to see the logic and large possibility that TANKING and wishing the 2011 Draft class saves this organization.

    You have to make your own destiny, and sitting tight hoping to lose games to more balls in the lottery is the stupidest way to go because there is no guarantee. At least getting talent and picks back, you can control the direction of the organization and safe guard your self by giving yourself more opportunities to rebuild.

    Solely depending on the draft is unreasonable. There are not any Lebrons, Melos, Wades, or CP3's to be drafted in this year's class. Besides outside of Lebron, no one expected some of those players to turn into the stars they are now. It's all chance, so whats the difference in getting multiple & recent lottery level talent now and hoping for the same thing?
     

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