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Yao's Alert Eyes

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by heypartner, Dec 2, 2008.

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  1. mrm32

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    Looks like someone's sarcasm meter is broken. :rolleyes:

    Seriously dude, chill out he was joking.
     
  2. robby_33

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    your a poof... i cant believe how many posts like this keep coming up, what do people like you think this forum is for??? OP is not saying something as inane as that, unfortunetly your brain ain't wired that way...

    We are here to discuss the Rockets, and yes i think Yao is looking around more now for what is happening around him on the court, from what i've seen this season he hasn't had a lil' guard sneak up on him and b**** foul him out of the ball so far...
     
  3. durvasa

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    I don't consider that joke racist. And I thought his response was unnecessarily antagonistic, and yes I think he needed to lighten up. Actual racism is serious stuff. Making a joke about Yao's eyes might be in poor taste, but it's basically harmless.
     
  4. DaRock1

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    Oh, according to you, it's harmless so it's not racist. Then do you consider making a joke about someone's skin color racist? Is it serious enough for you? Do you consider it racist to make a joke about someone's body smell due to his race? Is it serious enough for you? I would like to read your reply before I go further. You have just opened a can of worms. I thought you were smarter than that.
     
  5. durvasa

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    I think being "politically incorrect" when it comes to race isn't the same thing as being racist. And people need to have enough sense to know the difference. There was far more hatred and venom in what's his name's post compared to Asian Sensation's. Vulgar insults, personal attacks, calling someone a "disgrace" to their race -- this is what I find offensive. I'd be interested in your defense of that post, since apparently you are tacitly defending everything he said.

    An Asian guy making a joke about how Asians eyes are narrower than other races does not offend me in the slightest. I mean, is that something Asian people are actually ashamed of? I don't get what's supposed to be offensive about it. Acknowledging that there are physical differences between races, and making a joke that plays on it, isn't inherently demeaning. If Yao makes a joke about tall people not being able to see guys that are short, should tall people around the world be offended by that?
     
  6. DaRock1

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    Why did you try to avoid my questions?

    (1) Is it racist to make a joke based on someone's skin color? Yes or no?

    (2) Is it racist to make a joke on someone's body smell due to his race? Yes or no?

    Man up to answer these two easy yes/no questions.
     
  7. Asian Sensation

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    DaRock1 lighten up... it's called a joke. Why are you trying to make it out to be more than it is by saying someones opening up a can of worms and comparing skin color and somebody's body odor to their skin color. Seems like your the one opening up the can.

    I'm Asian. I have slanty eyes... I know that. So much so that my buddies call me "squintz". Is it something I'm embarrassed of or get offended of because someone might say I have small eyes? Absolutely not. It's something I've embraced. I can't speak for every Asian because maybe I just don't get offended easily but seriously I meant it as a joke.... You know the kind where people laugh and say HA HA like most of the people in the thread. There's always a few people though that try to stir things up by calling another a "racist". If your over-sensitive, so politically correct ass can't take that then I apologize.
     
  8. durvasa

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    I answered your questions, indirectly. If there's a legitimate reason to be offended by the joke, then its racist. If I made a joke in which I assume that all Asians are physically weak, or they smell bad, or they are ugly, etc. ... then that's racist. Just referring to a person's skin color isn't necessarily racist, though in certain contexts it might be. Same with smell. Having narrow eyes is a neutral physical characteristic. It's no more offensive to make a joke about that than it is to make a joke about the blackness of an Asian person's hair (or, for that matter, the blondeness of a Swedish person's hair).

    Now why don't you answer my queries from the previous post? Or would you prefer this discussion to be a one-way interrogation?
     
  9. DaRock1

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    You said you can't speak for everyone else but then you poked a racist joke like no one would care. How ironic. The fact that you don't care doesn't mean you have the right to poke that joke in a public forum because you are not the only oen who read this forum and many people here have openly stated before that it is racist and they were offended. What your next move? Claiming that yourself is ignorant?
     
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    Asian Sensation has extremely low self esteem i reckon.

    If i lived in China and they all call me stinky or hairy there is no one in hell i would put up with it.
     
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    Keywords: Public Forum.

    I'm so sorry you get so easily offended and worked up by what somebody that you don't even know said over an internet message board. Quit being such a square.

    As for your stupid/idiotic/ridiculous questions you posed to Durvasa. Hypothetically speaking, If he answered NO and NO what are you going to do? Please tell me WTF are you going to do?

    I made a joke on the internetz. Without any racial intent. But according to you ZOMG I'm such a racist and ignorant against my own kind ohhhh noeeez DaRock1 is going to cyber punch me! Hyelp!!!!!!!!
     
  12. DaRock1

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    To answer your queries? Asian_sensation being a disgrace to his own race? It really depends on his intention. If he was being ignorant, I would give him a pass. If he knew the historical background of the name but still poked fun at it in a public discussion board, he is a disgrace to his own race.

    People are offended because of the historical background of the name 'slit eyes' as it has been used to insult Asian people. It's the same reason why using the N word is racist. Is calling some the N word harmful? I would say yes because of the historical background of the name? What about you?
     
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    Okay, so I'm either A) ignorant or B) a disgrace to my own kind. Sweet. Can I just pick C) and be both?

    I think using the N word to describe somebody is great. I mean calling someone Nice has to be one of the best compliments I'd say. Saying someone is Nice is very Nice and is in no way harmful. Nice.
     
  14. DaRock1

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    Are you saying that we should not speak up against stupidity and ignorance because there is nothing more we can do since this is just an internet discussion board? You are ridiculously dense.

    I admit nothing else I can do except that I have exposed the ignorance of someone hiding behind a screen name. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't speak up.

    You are wrong. No one can punch you and that's exactly the reason why you had the courage to poke a racist joke on internet anonymously. Why don't you go say that in the face of an Asian (not your own friend because he/she probably knows you are stupid already). Remember to bring your cell phone and post the video here.
     
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    Asian Sensation must be offended.
     
  16. durvasa

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    I don't think N word is inherently harmful. Context matters. I'm not offended when I hear the N word in rap lyrics. I'm not offended when Chris Rock uses it. If someone used it casually because that was just how they were used to talking and didn't mean to intentionally demean someone then I'd say they're ignorant, but I wouldn't start ranting and raving because of it. I wouldn't necessarily even call them racist. If someone chose to use the word in an attempt to demean a black person, to make them feel inferior, then that's what I'd call racist.

    I apply the same standards in this situation. If someone on this board is hating on Yao, and he drops a "slit eyes" comment, then I'm with you in calling that racist. But there's a very obvious difference between that, and what Asian Sensation was doing. You, and the other poster, aren't recognizing that difference.
     
  17. DaRock1

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    There are black people who are offended by the N word in the song lyrics. I have read debate/discussion between the black folks on this issue before. The fact that 'you' think it's not racist and are not offended is not even close to being enough.

    You may call your friends an a$$hole and they will probably just laugh it off. But would you approach a stranger on street and call him an a$$hole? Can you imagine what will happen next? The lesson is that you shouldn't use an offensive term in public if you are not sure whether other people would be offended by it.
     
  18. durvasa

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    Who cares? There are people who are offended by really inconsquential, trivial stuff. I'm not going to censor myself and water down my comments to ensure I offend not a soul. Can you imagine how boring the world would be if artists, writers, film-makers, poets, etc. restricted themselves in that way?

    You don't call a complete stranger an ******* for one primary reason: you'd endanger yourself. No intelligent person should actually be offended if some stranger walked up to them on the street and called them an *******. It's a completely empty insult, because that stranger knows nothing about them.

    Look, you're so interested in not offending people, and yet you're defending the one poster in this thread who actually used personal attacks against another member. The one person who used a racially-charged term ("redneck") in an attempt to demean others. You haven't written a single word in opposition to that. It's difficult for me to take your arguments very seriously, I'm afraid.
     
  19. DaRock1

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    I re-read his post and saw the redneck term just now. Yes it is offensive and uncalled for. I applaud him for calling out Asian Sensation's stupidity but he is also an idiot to have used the offensive term 'redneck'. I see him at the same level as Asian Sensation now. What's your opinion?

    Now, you said the term 'redneck' is racially-charged, which I absolutely agree. But what makes you think the terms 'slit eyes' or 'slanty eyes' are not racially-charged? I would really like to read your explanation. Don't be long. I will be waiting.
     
  20. DaRock1

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    'You' think it is inconsequential and trivial stuff. But there are people out there who think otherwise. So the question is where to draw the line. Are you 'durvasa' so important that you can decide which terms are offensive enough but which are not? It's well-known that the term 'slit eyes' has historical background in it and it is well-known that it is offensive among the Asians. Is that enough for you? We had the a long thread about the Spanish basketball team making the slit eyes gesture before and many Asian posters have already spoken up against it. Isn't it enough for you? Are you telling me it is not racist and it is not offensive because durvasa thinks so? Who is durvasa anyway?
     
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