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Yao's agent questioning Chinese NT's training method

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by dragon167, Apr 28, 2003.

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  1. SamFisher

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    Just pray that he was referring to the great young Sabonis who played for Moscow Spartak or Kiev Dynamo or whatever that we never got to see!
     
  2. wizkid83

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    From websters dictionary

    inherent - intrinsic - originating or due to causes within a body, organ, or part // I was trying to say something within

    OMINOUS implies having a menacing, alarming character foreshadowing evil or disaster //pretty much what i was trying to say

    obvious - easily discovered, seen, or understood//pretty much what i was trying to say.

    If you want it more dumb downed translation here it goes.....
    They did test on Yao, it didn't look good. It's not something they can tell for sure but still something wrong inside that can affect Yao's pro career. If he doesn't rest his career is gonna be a lot shorter.
     
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    I appreciate “windandsea” finding all those articles for us to read. But I do think his/hers interpretation of Yao's interview is incomplete. Yao's quote is taken out of context, in particular Yao’s opinion about Shaq.

    From the very beginning fans and analysts have had different expectations for Yao. He’s been compared to various players, past & present, great ones & busts. Truth is before he came to USA, most of fans have seen little of him on the court. He’s endured more ridicules than many other foreign players and had so little benefit of doubts.

    We all have our own favorite players, when we see a good one comes along, it’s natural to project him to be our heroes. But it is not fair to put Yao into a frame that he does not fit. Even today some people still want him to be a mix of Bradley & Sampson. Some want to see him playing power game, some want to see a finesse game, everybody has his own preference. Hey, I for one is tired of slam dunks.

    But please do not put your own words into Yao’s mouth. Do not make assumptions especially if you can not read Chinese well, or worse still, if you can not translate Chinese properly.

    Nobody knows what Yao really means when he makes those comments, he did not elaborate.

    You can not expect Yao to become “another Shaq” & start rapping. He is not baby Shaq & will never be another Shaq.

    I would never want to see him to become another Shaq.

    The mere thought of it sends shivers down my spine.
     
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    Hakeem scored on Shaq, and Shaq (yes, bang, bang, dunk, because that's all he had at the time) scored on Hakeem. But give the edge to Hakeem on three counts. One, Hakeem had more experience when they were battling. Two, Hakeem was able to shoot from the outside (18ft fade-away) and hit it consistently (compared to Shaq's prayers). And last, Hakeem was a NATURAL defender: Shot-blocking!

    And I say this even today. For example, put both of them together in their PRIME!

    Slight edge to Hakeem.

    Slight edge to the Lakers vs Rockets because Shaq has had Kobe for most of his career.

    Hakeem didn't get Drelxer until late.
     
  5. Deckard

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    So he was tested by the Rockets and this is suddenly discovered at the end of the season just before he returns to China??


    Uh, OK.
     
  6. lost_elephant

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    on the king's complaints about shaq....

    "That ain't my (bleeping) problem that I'm too big and too strong," O'Neal said before the All-Star Game. "That's what I meant by saying that if I'm going to be beaten, I want you to whip my (butt) like Hakeem Olajuwon whipped my (butt). When he whipped my (butt), I didn't say nothing."

    1 of the only quotes by shaq that i like.
     
  7. wizkid83

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    My best guess is that Yao's body is slowly breaking down physically because of the fatigue of the NBA season. It can be why he played poorly in April. There's nothing that the doctors can pin point but all agreed that rest is needed.
     
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    A important quote that no one picked up is that amount all the praises he got, he liked the most the one saying him a 'multi-dimension' player. Yet, he is planning to work on his fundamental skill during the comming summer. OK, a bit of surprise while Yao need to work on his fundamental basketball skill, Cat is planning on Boxing during the summer in order to gain some more quickness, or is it the Franchise? Anyway, EG is planning on planting some grass...

    Yao need to improve on rebounding skill but guess no Malone, no Russell, so he will just have to work on fundamentals, and work more on his stepping and shotting skills.

    But I do like his improvement on flopping during the season. Divac the great mentor!
     
  9. leebigez

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    Hakeem is my favorite player in the history of the nba, but all these stories about him dominating Shaq are crazy. If you pull up Hakeem teams wins and number vs Shaq, I'm pretty sure Shaq probably had better numbers and more wins. I know Hakeem outplayed Shaq in the finally, but Shaq still put up 32 and 13 vs 35 and 10 for Dream. This is one of the bigges falsies that is mentioned on this board.
     
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    Yao saying he's never going to be like Shaq only shows he's a smart guy. There will not be another Shaq in the NBA for 20 yrs. He a once in a generation freak of nature. 7'1", 330 lbs. with almost a 40" vertical. Yao is never, ever going to have the same dominance in a game like Shaq, no matter how great his skill. I don't think a single NBA commentator thinks that's going to happen.

    The point is that Yao could be a great player on an ensemble team like the Kings or Jazz. Not just a complementary player but not quite the greatest center of all time either. He can still be a franchise player and not be Shaq.
     
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    Yao is being honest. You gotta love that.

    What is the problem for everyone here?
     
  12. topfive

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    Yeah! Let's trade him now! This guy sucks!!
     
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    There are two kinds of super start center. One beat the opponent centers and the other beat the opponent teams. I will take Bill Russell and his 11 rings any day!

    Too many one-on-one fans here in Rockets fan club. That's why the Rockets play so much ISO: the fans like it!
     
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    No.Shaq does NOT almost have a 40 inch
    vertical.

    Kobe's is 35, Francis is 42, Carter 43, Jordan 48+.
     
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    Worries me just a little but I like the fact that he has no fear from any of the centers still playing 4 years later.
     
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    You must be what others call a Yao's hater!!
    Someday when you think with a clear head, please tell me why!

    As far as your despair about this franchise's future because its center says he can not conquer the world, please remember that since the day of Wilt Chamberlain, no other team has had another center of the same caliber and they have done alright!
     
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    In honesty I'm less concerned with Yao's confidence in Shaq (who isn't fearful of that mutant?) than the original point of this topic which is that Yao is in some dire physical situation right now. I would definitely fear for his well being when doctors says his fatigue will cut his career short.
     
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    I think you guys are reading WAY too much into this. A lot of things get lost in translation, which is what I think is happening here. This is how I read it: Yao is tired and fatigued. That in itself is nothing you can really pinpoint like you can with a specific physical injury. He's tired, and if he doesn't get sufficient rest, it will undoubtedly lead to further problems. Thank god the Chinese NT realises this, and is letting him rest.

    And yes, ZRB: that is classic for you. I see no lack of confidence or desire in Yao's comments. All Yao is saying is that he can't and won't ever dominate in the same way that Shaq and Sabonis do/did. Hakeem didn't dominate in the same way as those two....he played to his own strengths and dominated in his own way. Yao is no different in this regard.
     
  19. wizkid83

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    I hope that's the case my self, its just that the article in Chinese was very negative. I also think the agent has his own agenda too. I think he was the one that was Yao's cousin and an agent that CBA didn't want to recognize. Maybe it's because his agent might actually look out for Yao's best interest. He's the one that actually felt Yao needed to stay here in the US and train as well calling the Chinese training "unscientific".
     
  20. beyao

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    Yao doesn't need to be as "dominant" as Shaq in order to lead his team to championships...IF he is in the right system. I don't see Yao ever averaging 30 or more points in his career. Part of the reason is that he is such a great and willing passer. As far as his numbers go, I'd be happy with him averaging a very realistic 20-23 a game within a few seasons. He averaged 13.5 this season...if you add on say 2 baskets per game for all the chippers he missed due to lack of strength (he will condition this summer)...and another 2 for the 5-8+ minutes a game he will average, that brings him to the low 20's in terms of scoring. Pro-rate his rebounds, assists and blocks and, well, you have a great center - a combo of Duncan and Walton, IMO. No Shaq, but hey - I'll take it.
     

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