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Yao vs. Amare - Moot point

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SwingMan, Nov 15, 2003.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Rudy T....the next Suns coach?


    It could happen.

    DD
     
  2. Hippieloser

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    I'd like to see Rudy coach again, but his track record with a team pretty similar to th Suns wasn't overwhelmingly stellar. ;)

    He'd probably be better than Frank, though.
     
  3. Jebus

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    SwingMan - nice post. As others have said, it's good to have thoughtful posts from fans of other teams around. Much better than some other Suns fans around here.

    I think it's also worth mentioning that, as I see it at least, the two are going to be asked to play different roles for their teams. (This is sort of an extension of the fact that, as you pointed out, they have very different games at this point). Apples and oranges, so to speak.

    Anyway, sorry to get off topic here, but to say "Moot point" actually means "debateable", or a point to be argued or discussed. This is one of the most commonly misused words I can think of. I have no idea how 'moot' came to be used as 'not worth discussing', especially since it actually means the exact opposite!

    Unless you actually meant it as "Yao vs. Amare - let's debate" ;)

    that's the language lesson for the day.
     
  4. 12345

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    As of 11/15/03

    Yao: 15.6 PPG Amare: 15.8 PPG
    Yao: 9 RB Amare: 9.3 RB
    Yao: 2 As Amare: 0.1 As
    Yao: 0.63 Stls Amare: 0.5 Stls
    Yao: 2.5 Blks Amare: 1.88 Blks
    FG%: .500 FG%: .417
    FT%: .733 FT%: .720
    3P%: 0 3P%: o
    Min: 32 Min: 35.1
     
  5. 12345

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    let the debate begin...
     
  6. Manny Ramirez

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    Swing Man,

    As long as I have followed the Suns, they have always been an "offense-first" team. And they have always had guys that could light it up (probably none so better than the teams they had that had Barkley on them). What is your thoughts on them changing their philosophy to become a more defense-oriented team? They may have already done so, and you will have to forgive me if they have since I have not been able to see many games this season, let alone any Suns games. But when I think of the wild and fast play of the West, the Suns and Blazers always come to my mind.

    And I understand what you are saying about Yao and Amare, but I think it is hard to compare the two since they play different positions, unless it is the Suns' intention to make Stoudemire a center. Yet because they finished 1-2 in the ROY voting, there will always be comparisons made between the 2 despite that they are completely and fundamentally different ballplayers. Don't get down, though, having a stud like Amare should make all Suns fans happy for many years.:)
     
  7. JayZ750

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    Amare showed us one move last night, and I've seen it on League Pass this year once or twice other times, that was freaking amazing.

    He had the absolute quickest post-up/spin0move I've ever seen. He did not have that last year. He's learning. Impressive.
     
  8. 12345

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    That's why we trade YAO FOR AMARE!!! :-D
     
  9. DavidS

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    Mr. Clutch, I didn't mean just "1#". Joe Smith was the number one pick.
    I'm saying only picking one 1st pick (if they were): Yao or Amare to build your team around.

    Amare doesn't "enjoy" double and triple teams every single night.
    We run plays for Yao. Amare they just let him loose.

    Defenses actually have to prepare for Yao. Amare they just say, "keep an eye on that guy; block out."

    We actually run our offense through Yao. Amare they don't.

    Let me put it in perspective....take a look at this starting five "team (imaginary):"

    Yao
    Francis
    Amare/Mobley <--3rd option, arguably the 3rd best player on our team
    Jackson

    Quite a team, I may add. But Yao is the "center" of attention (pun not intended).

    ;)
     
  10. acrophobia98

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    I agree. But I need to clarify, Yao may not be the first choice right now as he is developing his power game further while Francis has been in the league for more than five years. In any case, I like my team. Of course, Amare will be a wonderful addition to our weak PF position. In fact, his game will go well with Yao and Francis' style. :D
     
  11. JOHN BILL

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    Jebus,

    From American Heritage dictionary:


    The adjective moot is originally a legal term going back to the mid-16th century. It derives from the noun moot, in its sense of a hypothetical case argued as an exercise by law students. Consequently, a moot question is one that is arguable or open to debate. But in the mid-19th century people also began to look at the hypothetical side of moot as its essential meaning, and they started to use the word to mean “of no significance or relevance.” Thus, a moot point, however debatable, is one that has no practical value. A number of critics have objected to this use, but 59 percent of the Usage Panel accepts it in the sentence The nominee himself chastised the White House for failing to do more to support him, but his concerns became moot when a number of Republicans announced that they, too, would oppose the nomination. When using moot one should be sure that the context makes clear which sense is meant.
     
  12. Jebus

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    Good find- I always wondered why people started using it the other way.

    It's interesting what brings some people out of lurking mode..
     

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