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Yao talks back to Rick's criticism

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bob718, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. Jeff Who

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    Yeah, obviously it isn't his fault that he is 7'6 and he can't guard shooter but there is no damn way youleave very good shooter WIDE open for back to back treys.

    Maybe they should change it, maybe Yao shouldn't be guarding Murphy. Maybe it would be better to play defense first and just leave the offense for the last 6 minutes.

    But he should have guarded him. Even if Murphy would beat him off the dribble you don't wanna leave 2 rythm 3s in a row.

    And than he blew the layup...
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Yao can get out there and put a hand up, he stayed in the paint....if it is his responsibility, he should be there TRYING to do his best, not letting him shoot wide open 3s.

    Yao makes a lot of mistakes....still to this day......on defense......

    I mean think about it....after Murphy hit one wide open 3pter don't you think you would want to guard him on the 2nd one?



    DD
     
  3. roslolian

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    The main problem with JVG was his overuse of Yao and then his refusal to alter his gameplan when playoffs arrive. That's why you'll notice when we went to the playoffs, we get an early lead and then get eliminated when opponents adjust to our strategy. However despite these flaws I have never read anyone questioning Van Gundy's knowledge, or his work ethic. I think everyone here appreciated how much effort and hard work Gundy put into coaching our team. I think that's why even though he was a taskmaster his players loved him, because they know he always has their back. Just look at those eyebags...if that doesn't scream "commitment" to you then I don't know what does.

    RA on the other hand is starting to look more and more like a lazy, nazi looking bum. He may have a great vision for this team, and he talks and says all the right things, but he doesn't do squat on the court. With each and every game that passes I become more convinced that he uses a "read and react" offense because it doesn't entail work. He doesn't have to think of what sets to use or who should match up against whom, all he has do to do is stare at his players and shake his head. Oh yeah, and encourage his players to "talk to each other" more. My guess is he is working on a "read and react" defense as well, because he does the exact same thing on defense, except he does them in reverse order.

    And to think that during training camp when Addledman decided to scrap running sets and just "let the players play" I thought that it was a great idea. At the time I thought Addledman wanted to get his players used to his system but apparently he decided to scrap plays because it would be too much work. Really makes me wonder how he won all those games with the Blazers and with Sacramento :rolleyes:
     
  4. roslolian

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    As for everyone who's saying Yao should have never left his man: Yao is a 7'6 dude and as such should never leave the paint. You can't expect him to sprint to the 3 pt line and put a hand on Murphy's face. Doing so would leave the painted area wide open, and Murphy would probably hit a cutting player with a hockey pass as soon as Yao runs towards him. The players should have switched and taken Troy as soon as he approached the 3 pt line, but as usual Addledman sat on his ass and let the team implode on their own.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Oh come on, he should leave the paint and guard the man he is responsible for....or he should not be on the court.

    Yao screwed up, stop making excuses for him.

    DD
     
  6. roslolian

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    I just said doing so would leave the paint wide open. Chuck was not in the line up, we had no one who could have closed the lane up.

    Besides Yao did not screw up. As he told the Chinese reporter, Rick Adelman's plan was executed.

    The plan:

    Miami Version-"You should never leave the paint"
    Pacer Version-"You should leave the paint sometimes"

    As you can see, no matter what Yao Ming did in that situation he followed the plan. If a player followed the coach's plan and it failed who's fault was it?
     
  7. RocketsHero

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    Game plan changes, Yao gotta to learn to be flexible. If he get blown off, he got believe his teammate will cover for him.
     
  8. Jeff Who

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    Man, we don't expect him to play Shane's type of defense. Just damn put a HAND in his face, well at leat try. Yao just gave up. He was guarding NOBODY

    Asmy friend said after that blown layup at the end by Yao. Jumping doesn't hurt..
     
  9. guokees

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    Hate to see Yao was unable to get the ball at the end of the game while Artest couldn't make the points.
     
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    Yeah, like Troy Murphy is going to cut to the basket and dunk it. Murphy is a 3 pt shooter. Thats all Bill Worrel said when he was commentating. Yao stood like 5 ft away from him. He should've closed out on him. He may have blown past yao but our help defense has always been pretty decent, especially if Shane is in there (I dont remember if he was in there or not).
     
  11. Curly

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    There is the problem right there. That should have been a two handed no doubt we're going to win this damn game flush.
     
  12. kalmanfilter

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    "it is his fault because he is not quick enough to defend a 3 shooter"
    What a f*** idiot!!!!

     
  13. pewpew

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    lol, hes telling the truth. thats the way okur killed us couple of years ago.
    RA gotta work on how to use yao against those team have big-man can shoot mid-range or 3's. otherwise yes RA would become another idiot like JVG since yao is untouched.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    It has nothing to do with Yao being quick enough, it has EVERYTHING to do with Yao ignoring his man and staying in the paint.

    Yao is at fault here....no one else....he could have at least made an effort, he CHOSE not to.

    And it cost the team.

    DD
     
  15. leebigez

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    Dream is the all time leader in blocks. Sometimes our guards got torched with mid ranged jimmy's because dream gaurded the hoop. If dream wouldn't have ever left the paint and contest Starks shot, we would be 1 ring less. If he doesn't run down Strickland in the 1st rd, who know what happens then. Basketball Iq is knowing the stuationa and acting accordingly. If the scouting report says Good 3pt shooter, left handed, has trouble beaing guys off the dribble. If you're Yao and know the limitations you have, you have to trust your teammates just as they do you when they get beat off the dribble. So you're withing arms distance on his stroong side forcing him 1 way to help. If he shoots, you're cloe enough to contest. If you're to close and he drives, you push him and ride him right so when he tries to shoot, you're already on his shooting side. Its not roxket science, its just basketball.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    I could not agree more......find out what gum he was chewing.

    ;)

    DD
     
  17. rocketsregle

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    It was Yao's fault that he didn't come out to contest but I hardly think that is what cost the game. Yao got 4 of those points back by getting Murphy to foul him twice in the next possessions. Yao got Murphy his 5th foul and they didn't take advantage of it. What killed the team was too much iso-ing and turnovers from Scola/Yao at critical junctures of the game when they passed high-low to Artest. They didn't execute on offense ... that's what cost the team.
     
  18. CHI

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    I hate how Yao stays on his man and gives up uncontested layups when someone gets beat off the dribble. I mean, its OK if the guard penetrates and dishes off to the guy your guarding. At least don't give him an uncontested layup.

    Also, its OK to knock a dude down every now and then. Give hard fouls Yao!
     
  19. DaDakota

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    Look, I love Yao....LOVE HIM....but he still makes the same dumb stupid plays that he made as a rookie.

    He still reaches in...he still leaves his man wide open, and he still doesn't recognize a pick and roll on defense.

    I know he is smart, but I think he doesn't do enough to compensate for his lack of quickness....he could be so much better with an attention to detail on D.

    Yao leaving him open ONCE....should have told him..."Hey, next time down, I better get out there a bit on him"....instead he let him shoot again...cutting a 10 point game to 4.......and giving life and hope to the Pacers.

    Yao made a STUPID decision......a dumb, stupid, boneheaded decision......no excuses....he could have covered Murphy, who by the way is not exactly quick either.....and only goes left.

    DD
     
  20. ColdHeartArtest

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    You just registered this account in November to be a Yao-hater? Do not tell me you are a new rocket's fan.
     

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