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Yao talks back to Rick's criticism

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by bob718, Nov 27, 2008.

  1. RocketsHero

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    Adelman is right, you have to be flexible.
     
  2. RocketsHero

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    See Miami Heat
     
  3. oneonepyopyo

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    I have the same Q to speak out!

    In addition, yesterday loss is frustrating for me, still I am OK with Rockets and rotation!

    It's not either Yao or AD's fault, IMO. Shane just came back and he did well defensively. But it seemed that either he or the other four on the court were not used to playing together. Giving more time, they'll be Ok. Dont forget we have T-mac backing up there.

    Go Rockets.
     
  4. worzel gummidge

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    you do.

    he wouldn't as he would've wanted a vet pf. the rockets would probably have traded for a player like jason collins instead of trading for landry and scola.
     
  5. dreamrockets

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    I lean to Yao this time:

    First, yes, they made a couple of 3's but that is not the end of day. If I am not wrong I remember there are some other 3's they shoot against Yao were missed. At that point, you do not take Yao off. As some clutch fans said, taking Yao off in defence sent a message to Indiana and hurted Yao's rhythm. More importantly, it also allowed the opponent to attack the rim.

    Second, the biggest problem is not Yao's defence of 3pters, it is more of our offence. We did not make any field goal in the last 6 minutes.

    Third, Adelman is lying. He said Yao should never go to the high post. Within our last 4-5 possessions, Yao had always tried to establish positions in the low post. Guess what, he did not get the ball. You can say that they fronted Yao, but they have done that all the game yet we had still been able to pass the ball to Yao. Why couldn't we keep doing that in the last 4,5 possessions?

    I am sick of Adelman's attitude. He blamed T-MAC, he blamed Yao, yet he never has any responsibility for our losses. What a competent coach---
    Rick, I don't know, Adelman
     
  6. dreamrockets

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    This is our head coach:

    After the game with Heats

    “Yao can’t come out from the rim. He has to stay at the rim because that’s where he is effective. He just has to stay back there because that’s when he’s really effective because he’s so big that if he just stays there he is hard to shoot over.”

    After the game with Pacers

    I think that they made a couple of shots. Yao was guarding ( Troy) Murphy and sometimes you've got to go out, you can't stay back when you're playing a shooter. Let your teammates help you, but those are things that happened.
     
  7. Lovemachine2000

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    Adelman got pwned!! I wonder what he was thinking putting Yao on Murphy... Play some damn zone!
     
  8. Akim523

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    RA was truly delusional on those 2 back to back comments
     
  9. worzel gummidge

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    Haslem 6-7 PF turned C. a Chuck Hayes who scores well in the low post.

    Muphy 6-11 PF/C one of the better 3pt shooting big men also noted for not playing defense.
     
  10. redao

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    here is the key. You can not play everyone in one freaking style. You have to play with some flexibility and use your brain.
     
  11. blender

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    It sounds like Yao may still be working from the Jeff Van Gundy mode of playing, where you play within a more rigid defensive structure with little flexibility.

    It worked back then because JVG is a genius at setting up the defense, especially in the final minutes of the game. He was great at figuring out what each player should be doing and then getting them to do it. He was also great at surprising opponents with sudden changes in defensive schemes.

    Adelman, on the other hand, strikes me as more of a "you figure it out" kind of guy. He seems to give more responsibility to the players, allowing them to recognize schemes on their own. It allows for more flexibility but also for more mistakes, like what I suppose happened in the Pacers game.

    Now I wonder which mode is better for Yao in the long run.
     
  12. ColdHeartArtest

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    I am just wondering how do you guys feel if yao choose to leave after 2010?Feel happy? I think everyplayer could have up and down game.Just do not blame too much to a player who has the whole heart on this city.
     
  13. dreamrockets

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    Well, talking about brain, I think Yao's bascketball IQ is pretty high. He is flexible usually make good decisions in defense. That is why we always have pretty good defense with Yao in the lineup.
    The problem is, as I've said, Yao did let Murphy shoot several threes and Murphy made 2 of them. But that is what it is, you don't take Yao out with half a minute and with a 1 point advantage. You got put Yao in the paint and stop easy the easy basket.
    I am not saying one can only play one style. I showed these two back to back comments to show that Adelman always has something to say. He seldom has any responsibility in our losses (We won the game against heats).
     
  14. dionysus180

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    we always see that Rick shake his head like a fool :D
     
  15. leebigez

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    Its been like this for how many years? Its always someone else.
     
  16. dionysus180

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    our player know nothing what to do next with coatch Rick ,cause our coach f@@k his own brain
     
  17. MD_in_Training

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    What are you talking about? Yao has never blamed the boach, or other players for any loss.
     
  18. leebigez

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    I'm just wondering for all the guys blaming Adelman, do you think any coach can utilize yao? I mean this is the 3rd coach and everyone seems to blame the coach or the players around Yao. I mean defense is trusting the other players around you. Team defenses work on a string. After the 1st 3 and looking at the game situations, you have to step closer to the shooter and be ready for a shot or dribble drive. On offense, in crunchtime, if you want to be the man, you have to act like the man. If you want the ball, you have to be relentless. You have to work your as off. If you don't get the ball, get in position to get offensive rebounds. The final play whe artest gave the ball to Yao point blank, all he had to do is gather himself and go up strong. Instead, he tried to finesse like he had earlier today and mostly in his career. Yao can almost touch the rim standing straight up and you're going to get me to believe he couldn't or shouldn't have dunked the last play? Gimme a break.

    All I know is Rudy T won 2 rings, Van Gundy went to a few confernce finals and a nba finals and Adelman has went to 2 finals and a few cnfernce finals, yet all of those coaches misuse Yao. Something is wrong with this picture.
     
  19. dionysus180

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    maybe the jvg style is better for yao

    the key is yao more team-oriented and always respect coach as a decision maker not himself. In traditional culture, chinese is educated to obeys teachers,parents or veterans. but little chance to let yourself come out. Sure times is changing this embrassment. But Yao grew up in this culture background. So he is short of confidence with himself and escapes respondsibility.In Rich style , no detail plan will result in knowing nothing to do. But yao fit in jvg system better.
     
  20. ColdHeartArtest

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    In last night, Pacers use four diffrent style and good defense players to defense Yao. It's very difficult to Yao to keep his pace in the whole game.
     

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