Wow. And here I was thinkin that "Yao+T-Mac>O+K" simple meant that "Yao and Taylor minus McDonald's are greater than okay." It makes as much sense. T- Mac is as unselfish SF and Cat combined.
He's saying Yao doesnt worry about his numbers as much other players on the rockets team (SF & Cat). In fact I dont think he cares about his numbers, which is the reason why the rockets sometimes lose. Yao has to be more selfish.
Digging up a 4 month old thread to show up a poster, who hasn't been heard from in 3 1/2 months. You sure told him!!!
I think the issue here is a confusion with the word "unselfish" or "selfish." These terms aren't applied the same to a PG as they are a SG. A team *needs* their PG to be "unselfish" for obvious reasons. A SG can be "selfish" to an extent because we need that SG to SCORE. If Francis could score at the same level of McGrady then maybe we'd want him to be more "selfish." But he just didn't have scoring ability to do that. An advantage of McGrady is he's a SG and can get the same amount of assist that Francis did (6.5). What's better is that McGrady has LOW turnovers! Francis had high turnovers The bottom line is that we will use McGrady differently than we did Francis. That's why we are looking for a PG right now. We know that McGrady will be our offensive weapon. But we need to find a PG to run the team. Note: I think because of Yao, McGrady's scoring numbers should drop a bit (25ppg). But I think that McGrady's assist numbers should increase a bit (7.5).
A good article from other fan site by poster YaoDynasty. Sorry if I have broke the rule of this bbs, but it really is a good article. Post subject: Yao/McGrady Better Combination Then Shaq/Kobe? July 1st: The arrival of Tracy McGrady was also the arrival of the Houston Rockets as a true NBA playoff contender. The Houston Rockets already have one dominating center in Yao Ming and now they have McGrady who is arguably the best shooting guard in the game and one of the top 4 players in the NBA. Sound like a combination for a dynasty in the making? Perhaps. But lets take a deeper look at what we really have. YAO MING: For most Rocket Fans, we have seen the maturation of Yao Ming from a player who was first labeled as the next Rick Smith to possibly becoming the next dominating force in the NBA. In all fairness, Yao has been a little bit of both. At times Yao simply looks unstoppable and one dreams of how great he can become while at other times Yao looks confused and uncoordinated. Maybe I’m being premature and I’m not giving enough credit to a man of his size. I’m sure it’s harder to do the Texas two-step when you are 7 ft 6 compared to 5 ft 10. But, what I have seen from Yao that impresses me more then anything else is his ability to adapt, learn, and improve on his game. The difference between Yao’s first year in the NBA to second year was outstanding. Yao not only improved on his statistical numbers but also became the focal point of the offense that lead to the first playoff birth in five years for the Rockets. I realize some fans will say, what about Steve Francis? Well, Francis of course helped a lot but lets face it, without Yao, I would rather take my chances on the roulette wheel then betting that Francis could lead a Rocket team into the playoffs. Although, Yao has improved greatly, he still lacks the consistency that is needed by an NBA super star. The second most dominating center he is but the playoffs is where you become a legend and last years playoff series against Lakers didn’t exactly make me believe Yao was the next best thing. TRACY MCGRADY: The recently acquired McGrady could be exactly what the Houston Rockets were looking for. Around 1½ years ago, I had wrote a small column in another BBS chat forum (www.*****.net/) that the Rockets should try to trade Francis and Mobley to the Orlando Magic for McGrady. Everyone in that forum laughed and mocked me and eventually I got kicked off the BBS forum. It’s ironic what people will do when you have a good idea. But I don’t have sour grapes cause I don’t think that is a good forum (you couldn’t pay me to post another thread in there again) cause you are not allowed to speak your mind but must agree with everything the moderators say in the forum. This is a travesty cause the moderators are often wrong and like I said if you disagree then your account gets disabled. Hopefully, this BBS works differently. But, to progress forward, I still believe that the McGrady trade is a perfect fit for the Rockets now as I did 1½ years ago. McGrady is the rare combination of athletic talent, size (length), and speed that are only trumped by Kevin Garnett. Arguably, McGrady is the 4th best player in the NBA. Most experts consider only Garnett, Duncan, and Shaq better. McGrady, like any other great player, creates mismatch problems for opposing teams. That is what makes him such a rare talent. Many NBA Analyst will tell you that McGrady has become just a scoring machine. That McGrady is a player who lacks heart and at times is a crybaby. I can’t disagree with this analysis cause it is true. McGrady is a crybaby and at times doesn’t play to his full potential. However, if you follow McGrady’s career and attitude over the past few years you will realize that the guy wants to WIN. He doesn’t want to win just to have a good record at the end of the season but he wants to WIN IT ALL. He is the type of player who wants an NBA Championship or nothing at all. In Orlando, McGrady had no chance of winning a championship. It was in part cause of Grant Hill’s injury and salary and the other part was Orlando Magic management’s unwillingness to pay for quality frontcourt players that the Magic so desperately needed. So what did McGrady do? McGrady stayed patient and developed his game for three years waiting for Grant Hill to get better and that never happened. By the fourth year, McGrady had enough; he gave the management an ultimatum by stating, you either give me a quality veteran front court player (Elton Brand type player who dishes out 20 points and 10 rebounds per night) or I’m leaving. Orlando Magic answer to McGrady’s needs was, Dwight Howard. McGrady public forced a trade to the Houston Rockets, which is only one of two teams that has a dominating center. So the question remains what type of player is McGrady exactly? Statistically, McGrady is in the top three only behind Garnett and Duncan. Of course McGrady the past two seasons was known for scoring having been the scoring champion (meaning scoring most points per game) the past two seasons. But McGrady is more then just a scorer before coming to Orlando McGrady was known for his all around ball skills. Some have suggested in the past he was the next Scottie Pippen cause of his ability to play great defense, passing ability, court awareness and overall smart play. So, to say McGrady is one-dimensional scoring machine would be false. He is more then that and that is what makes McGrady one of the most difficult matchups in the NBA. McGrady has been labeled the past couple of years as a hog ball and greedy player. I ask in return, whom could McGrady turn to for help? Who could he pass the ball to knowing that they would make a shot? This past year Grant Hill was injured, Pat Garrity was hurt (the only consistent 3 point shooter), they had no consistent inside post player, and Tyron Lue is only good for small stretches of a game, and they lost Armstrong to free agency and Mike Miller through a trade. So, McGrady had become a one-man team in Orlando and was tired of playing 1 on 5. What McGrady needed was a place where he felt that his efforts would amount to something more then a first round exit from the Eastern Conference playoffs and Houston Rockets is the place. The NBA world has not seen the best of McGrady but simply has just gotten a taste of how great he will be. I will describe in the next section why the Yao/Tmac Combo is better then the Shaq/ Kobe combo. YAQ & T-MAC COMBO: This is going to be a great combination for the ages if Yao decides to resign and extend his contract with the Houston Rockets in 2005-2006. However, this combo isn’t going to be anything like Shaq and Kobe even though the NBA analyzers will forever make the comparison. If you look at Shaq’s game compared to Yao’s game they are incredibly different. Same holds true to when comparing Kobe to McGrady. So, lets take a fair assessment and look at how Yao and McGrady will dominate the game. First, I’ll compare Yao and Shaq then I’ll compare McGrady and Kobe. Finally, I will compare how Yao and McGrady will play off each other as opposed to Shaq and Kobe. YAO VS SHAQ: Yao will never be the sledgehammer that Shaq was. Shaq’s game consisted of backing up players deep inside the paint and dislodging whoever was in his way for a dunk or a layup. Sometimes Shaq settles for a 5-10 ft hook but not often. Compare this to Yao who looks for a player in motion and if nobody is open will back the defender and go for a turn around jump shot if not a layup if he is in far enough in but often times can’t get deep enough position. The other major difference is that Yao takes a considerable amount of outside shots for a big man because he can make them. In fact, the only similarities between Yao and Shaq are that if they are doubled/tripled teamed they will pass to the perimeter and look for a three-point shooter. MCGRADY vs KOBE: McGrady was just born with an NBA body (tall, lean, and muscular). McGrady doesn’t need to outwork his opponent because he simply is taller then them or considerably faster then them. Nobody can match both his speed and length in the NBA; therefore, can stop him one-on-one besides maybe Kevin Garnett. What I’m suggesting is that McGrady doesn’t need to outwork his opponent cause he is a natural mismatch. This is why often times you hear that McGrady does things effortlessly, like he isn’t even trying. Well, it’s true; he probably isn’t trying his hardest, especially last season, but give him credit for that cause he doesn’t have to outwork his opponent to beat them on offense or defense. When I see McGrady play I often think of a senior in highschool playing against a junior highschool player in basketball. It just doesn’t seem fair. Compare this to Kobe who I see as an energy player. Kobe beats other players because he simply outworks them. He is extremely well conditioned, has amazing hand speed, and good jumping ability, and unmatched coordination. He uses these gifts to get around players when it doesn’t seem possible. There are few people who work as hard as Kobe in the NBA. Another difference between McGrady and Kobe is that McGrady often time settles for the outside shot rather then taking it into the rim every time. Perhaps the differences are a result of McGrady getting doubled/tripled teamed and he has found it easier to get good looks at the basket by settling for a jump shot rather then getting abused taking it to the rim. Even when McGrady goes into the basket often times he will kick the ball out if there is someone open on the three point line or if someone else is in motion. Contrast this to Kobe who hardly ever settles for an outside shot without at least attempting to go to the basket first. Kobe always seems to want to weave between at least three players and do the impossible before settling for a shot. I find this amazing but yet at the same time, a lot of wasted energy. In some ways Kobe reminds me of how Steve Francis plays because both players are always looking for their shot and trying to penetrate rather then take the easy shot or easy pass. Maybe this is a result of their athletic nature to tend to think they can beat any player one-on-one any given time. When Kobe does go into the basket he hardly ever dishes out to another player but rather would do the fantastic by doing some super human flying act that make you want to compare him to Jordan. The playing style of McGrady and Kobe is mostly the result of the type of player they are but also the atmosphere and teams that they play for. McGrady for the past four years has begged for help and is tired of doing it all on his own and has been humbled by the experience of being in Orlando. Kobe on the other hand has always wanted to get out of the shadow of Shaq. McGrady defines his greatness by winning a championship. Kobe defines his greatness as being the centerpiece of a team and winning a championship without Shaq. [MCGRADY & YAO] vs [KOBE & SHAQ] MCGRADY & YAO: Lets compare how McGrady & Yao will play together. First, I believe McGrady will be more then willing to share the ball with Yao and the rest of the team. McGrady has already stated that he is willing to dump the ball into Yao as many times as he wants as long as that means a championship. This is a big statement but not surprising statement from a guy who was a lone superstar in Orlando. Between Yao and McGrady, I think there is going to be good chemistry between the two players. Both have excellent passing skills, decision-making skills, and are willing to share the ball, and both require double-teaming. This is a huge advantage cause you hardly find two superstars on the same team willing to share the ball unless you are talking about the ALL STAR WEEKEND or the OLYMPIC TEAM. The unselfishness of both McGrady and Yao is going to result in a lot of ball movement and passing. Not just between those two players but the entire team. When your two superstars set an example, usually the rest of the team follow. When good chemistry and unselfishness occurs what results is easy baskets. I think you are going to see a lot more off the ball movement especially between McGrady, Yao, and Jackson. I think there will be plenty of plays where Yao get the ball down low post and dishes a pass to a streaky McGrady going into the paint for a layup or dunk. I also think McGrady is going to do a lot more dribble penetration because Yao’s defender won’t be there to stop McGrady from slamming it home, and even if the defense collapses on McGrady, he can simply kick the ball out to Yao for an easy lay up or dish the ball out to a player on the three point line. McGrady is going to be the catalyst for the offense and make things happen and open things up for the rest of the team and in return Yao is going to require so much attention on offense that McGrady will have an easier time setting up the offense and creating his own shot or someone else’s. KOBE & SHAQ: Have absolutely no chemistry. That is the fundamental reason why they didn’t win. It has nothing to do with the Lakers needing to get more athletic but their down fall is that the two superstars on the Lakers didn’t work together. There is little ball movement between Shaq and Kobe and it was evident throughout the playoffs and regular season. They don’t set each other up let alone create shots for their teammates. Both players ego’s are so big that they are not willing to play within a team concept. Kobe is more to blame then Shaq. Kobe at times tries to do too much and really doesn’t accept his role as second fiddle to Shaq even though it’s led to three NBA championship rings for Kobe. For all the individual greatness that these two players have their dominance never really reached the height that it could have been. CONCLUSION: Yao Ming & McGrady is going to be a better combination in the end then Kobe & Shaq but not more dominating. Domination is a word that should also be seen as being unstoppable by some physical force. Only Shaq fits into that category cause the rules allowed him to brutalize players down in the paint. However, even if they are not as dominating, I think Ming & McGrady will be more difficult to stop and contend with cause they will have better chemistry amongst themselves as well as with the Rocket Team in general. The Houston Rockets did a fantastic job of acquiring McGrady even though McGrady initiated the trade by stating that he wanted out of Orlando and stated that Houston was the only place he would sign a contract extention with. So, Orlando really had no choice but to trade McGrady if they wanted any quality players in return. Give the Rocket Management some credit though. They were willing to part with All-Star Steve Francis and quality role player in Catino Mobley and Cato. Therefore, although the trade was a no brainer it is still considered a bold move considering you are trading away the players who consisted of the heart of the team the past 4 of the 5 years. But, don't be fooled this was a home run trade for the Rockets by all measures. Now that the Rockets have McGrady & Yao…prepare for a dynasty in the making.
lol Is this "YaoDynasty" orginally from Clutchfans.net!? He said he got kicked off for posting this idea...
