Yao should never ever attempt to take a charge...again.

He get's it called in his favor once a week or two. It's not worth it. I rather have him knock some people down once or twice a game and make them think twice about coming into the paint.

 

C'mon DD, the TNT crew made a great point when the Rocets played the Mavs and he was getting fouls called against him. What they said is he needs to go for the blk because most times, he's going to inside the circle of restriction. So its going to be a blocking foul, so he should go for the block. Plus, if I'm a ref, how much am I'm going to believe that a 180-200lbs guy is going to drop a 320lbs man to the ground. I would give him a foul for being a wuss. Now if its big man on big man, that's different.

 

He's being a wuss?

So you would be one of those lame superstar refs that don't call what is or has happened, instead you make a superficial judgement call?

That is why you are not a ref I guess.

 

Well, as a former ref, I never looked at size...EVER....if a player jumped in and intiated the contact, it was his foul.

You should never punish the defensive player.....they have a right to the same space as the offensive player.

And for the boards info...you can be moving and still draw a charge, or player control foul....it all depends on who initiated the contact. You do not have to be set.

And for the record...I hate.....HATE .....the restricted circle...

DD

 

I actually like it and wish they would use it in college. I hate people flopping and falling down. That's where a lot of rollups occur. Other than Camby, good defensive bigs don't take charges. Deke,dream,mourning,wallace,duncan,garnett and so on never take charges. They will jump straight up and contest the shot. DD, you watched Mark Eaton, how many times did u see him taking a charge? Yao's sheer size is a deterrent , but when he has his hands down and is setting up for a charge, its just not agood look.

 

I am results oriented, I don't give 2 craps for how it looks.

If it works, and is effective, do it.

DD

 

This thread reminds me of one of the things that makes me angry about basketball officiating, especially in the NBA. Why is it so hard to get a charge called without falling? If a point guard drives into a center who's planted outside of the half-circle, it should be a charge whether the center falls or not.

 

I don't care how it looks either, but the facts remain the same and a defensive player like deke knows it. As a big guy, you play you man and the ball. Having you hands down and setting up for a charge and falling down without getting the call will result in a easy, uncontested shot or a foul. Yao may get a charge call 1 time in 10 attempts. He will give up way more points via a foul called coming from the ft line or the uncontested shot because he's on the ground or out of position.

 

I completely agree. How many times have we seen Manu (or some other PG) hurl himself at Yao. Since Yao didn't fall, Yao gets called for the block (or at best, it is a no call). That's just plain stupid.

 

4 someone that tall he shouldn't be taking charges period. block the damn shot!!!!

 

Fair enough, then you shouldn't have said

in your previous post...that is what I was referencing.

DD

 

Yao taking charges, retires when he turns 30 due to injuries VERSUS Yao not taking charges, retires when he's 36 with a couple championship rings

Which one would you take?

 

Tell that to refs and Stern. If only they allow big guys to defend how they are supposed to defined.

 

Both of which are wild arsed guesses, with no basis in factual data.

Carry on !

DD

 

TIMBERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

 

He's doing it on purpose, people. Part of the disappointment of last year's injury was that he said he making less risky plays to avoid getting hurt. People sprain their ankles on other people's feet all the time around the hoop, so if Yao's new defensive strategy minimizes the risk I'm all for it.

We're over halfway done with the season. Let's not have Yao throw his body around like a madman, okay?

 

I just wish Yao would go for a hard block sometimes and send a message to the other team. Instead of being the one that falls over or getting dunked on. Be the one that puts the smaller guy in his place.

 

haha. I don't think you understand the slang phrase 'not a good look', it basically just means bad like how 'cool' can mean low temp and something good.

Anyway, for a big center, it just isn't good defense or smart for Yao's health. It is too much of a risk for him to be falling, as far as he has to fall, to get a charge call. Also, one of the biggest defensive weapons of having a big center is intimidation. When a center embarrasses a player by blocking them or hurts them by knocking them on their behind they are less likely to come back.

And, Yao already has poor reaction time. If he is already set for a charge he won't have time to deflect an interior pass or shift his body to protect the basket if the ball is moved. The great post defenders all used their size, Yao has to continue to learn how to use it to be great. Taking charges is what smaller guys do because they don't have the size to protect the basket in any other way.