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YAO OR NEVER (DEFECTION???)

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jshabang, Aug 26, 2003.

  1. rockets-#1

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    Well said, but I don't like him practicing in China, I wish it was here during the summer.
     
  2. SaVeThEpIgS88

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    HEH... Yao... my goodness if i had the chance to slap the whole chinese team and staff and blah blah blah i would do it... How come they have to come take away im thinking the future of this franchise... Yao... thats so mest up what they are putting you true... I think we are going to make to the playoffs... Might as well let Yao sit out 20 games.. although that would affects us.. But right now Yao doesnt look to good in all the pics i seen...
     
  3. WNBA

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    ways to escape:

    1, get severly "injured" in the last NBA game.

    2, Support Wang Zhizhi with claiming if XXX is still the president of CBA, he will not go back.

    3, Practice Fa Lun Gong. :D
     
  4. tycoonchip

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    I agree with DD. He is not going to get a pity call from me. Dream and alot of players improved because of Summer Ball. He needs to be worked into shape. If the rockets are that comitted into having him as one of our franchise players then i want to see our staff surrounding him in china and working with him over there. There are alot of players out there working and representing the US. We aren't worried that they will get tired are we. If there is any reason why he is saying he is tired, I believe it is because he wants to do that summer ball in the u.s. He could also have some time to practice with steve francis and really work on getting in sync or building chemistry together. A magic and kareem type of chemistry or pippen and jordan type of chemistry.
     
  5. Panda

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    Interesting that there isn't "a voice of reason" from the Rockets expressing their concerns yet.
     
  6. RunninRaven

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    Yao is not like Wang (that could be a hilarious YoYao-esque quote if taken out of context). I don't think he has any animosity towards his home country, and has no plans to defect. We all act like if it is in the guy's best interest basketball-wise, then he should defect and that will be that. It would be a HUGE deal if he defected, since I believe he is way more loved in China than Wang is or ever will be. I don't see this ever happening.
     
  7. min

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    i don't think yao would ever defect...

    i'm sure yao loves china..

    the food.. his family.. relatives.. friends... girlfriend... he would be giving up A LOT just for the flexibility to do whatever he wants in terms of his career..

    besides.. china is amazingly developed now.. and don't expect it to slow down.. there is no reason why Yao would defect...

    i dunno.. when i read this.. don't you think it's a little insulting for chinese people to read this... it's like... defecting to the US is the greatest thing that Yao can do to improve his life...

    other people love their own countries you know.. other people have national pride.. just because we think america is the best country in the world.. does not necessarily mean it is... or that other think it is too
     
  8. Stack24

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    This is very true. They way the he is loved for being humble etc, is the reason he is so big. Wang doesn't have that appeal. Of course Yao's skills are amazing but the fact that he is the way he is as a person and puts certain things ahead of others is what makes a whole country love him. I mean Wang was the first one to come out, wouldn't you think they would be all over him and be happy? well they really weren't. He wasn't a media darling and doesn't have the charisma like Yao. That's what makes the great players even greater when it comes to marketing. Yao's personality is what makes him marketable and his honor to his country. If he defected he would never be as big as he is now cause they would all hate him for it and call him a traitor.
     
  9. silkworm

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    I realize people are concerned about Yao's schedule, but to advocate for his defection is unwise to say the least.

    It's an arrogant and ignorant assumption that Yao's life, or anyone's life, will be optimized by betraying his country, his home and his countrymen. A lot more are at stake here than basketball, not the least is Yao Ming himself.

    Ask yourself, how would you feel to renounce the place where you were born and raised, where the geography is the landscape of your memory, to spit in the face of all the people who have helped you through out life and through their words and touches have shaped you into who you are. Because that's what defection entails.

    After all, we sit on the sidelines of his life, and make idle speculations about everything from his diet to defection. But he have to live it.
     
  10. Fegwu

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    Defection in this case in my opinion is naive, myopic, selfish and unwise.

    This concern and fear raised by Jshabang is for real. I fear for Yao everyday as well. But I am sure the Chinese officals along with TEAM Yao and the Rockets will do the best thing for Yao - i.e. give him a few summers off to recoup.

    China's big goal is the Beijing summer Olympics. They want him at his peak and healthy come that time. I am sure they know that for him to be at his best he will need periodic time off from national team duties.

    I am confident something will get worked out for Yao ultimate benefit (health and performance wise).

    Have no fear - rather have FAITH!
     
  11. xs28

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    any chance that before this thread is over, the 'rumour of yao's plan to defect' would hit china? wouldn't that be something if the chinese government over reacts and keeps yao from leaving the country, a major political incident started here at CC! :D
     
  12. Visagial

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    This argument about "working Yao into shape" ignores the fact that the way a 7'5" body responds to exertion is very different from a 6'3" body does. Joints, ligaments, and bones aren't proportionally stronger as you get bigger, that's why big men wear out so precipitously. Look at DRob. His flesh was in terrific shape but his back couldn't support the NBA stress without a lot of pain.

    The way I see it, Yao is in as good a shape as a guy his size can probably be. He's got a limited lifetime number of NBA minutes he can play and he's using them up in the summer running windsprints every day.

    Yao is probably worth tens of millions to the Rockets and the NBA. Stern and Les need to figure out a way to convince the Chinese to stop breaking him down. Pay them off christ's sake.
     
  13. ty185

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    lol. just realized how funny my post looked like.

    well well, can I use the noob excuse just for once? :)

    btw, I'm still not sure about yao's blood pressure compare to other 7 footers. I'm sure there should be a slightly different standard for 7+ footers for a "normal" blood pressure, and I'm sure yao is probably a bit higher than the "normal" pressure for even 7 footers. but by how much? how serious is his reported blood pressure problem now? anyone have any idea?
     
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    ........a........b..........c

    damn I hate those .........
     
  15. Panda

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    The way to negotiate is to complain first. If Yao really perceives the training and consequent tiredness are hurting the duration of his career, as reported in another ariticle, he can flat out go on a strike regardless of what the instruction is. For if he doesn't take measures to protect himself, he's stupid and if he does, what's the harm? Being kicked out of NT? Furthermore, it should raise an eyebrow that Yao has been complaining about fatigue non stop in front of media and the Rockets haven't expressed anything in this regard. It looks like Yao is blowing some smoke about the degree of his fatigue to get the attention of the Chinese officials. Team Yao should be behind this and orchestrating so they can negotiate a better schedule in Yao's favor next time around. Just my speculation.
     
  16. zhaozhilong

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    Hey people you missed a very important point.

    This is the FIRST time that Yao has come back to China from NBA. The FIRST home coming is of course going to be a super funfare and frenzy.

    But what happens after the second season? People get used to it. The media will not interview him that much anymore.

    It's like when you get a new toy, you play with it every minute for the first day. Then after that, you leave it in a box until your next house cleaning day.

    Heck, no one will give a damn when another Jessica Lynch goes back to US, right?
     
  17. zhaozhilong

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    BTW,

    200 !!!
     
  18. yb001

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    Chill out man! No one in China point a gun to his head and force him to play for national team, but the thing is if Yao refuse to play for NT this time, then CBA will not allow him to play for NT in the future even if he want to. It's just like Wang's case, Wang has express his interest to play for NT recently but CBA demand him to admit his wrongdoing first before they consider anything. This is how CBA manage dicipline on their national team, no one is given the previledge to walk in and out of the team at will.

    On the side note, Asian Games is just like once every 4 year, next summer Yao will has some rest.
    Yao's tiredness is mainly due to media's bombardment and some crazy fans, after a while this will get cool down on its own so no need to be too worry. Yes, I'm a little worried about his condition this coming season but if he is able to get through it this season, he and Rockets will have a bright future ahead.
     
  19. Yun

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    Err... Next summer is Olympic. So I do not think that Yao will have a lot of rest.
     

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