Yao Now: Rockets center climbing into Shaq-osphere

Nice read. Rox fans shouldn't simply label these nay sayers as Yao haters, even for Kenny Smith. Yao has fantastic stats now and he is still progressing, his stats is closing to those of Hakeem and Shaq in their prime time, so what? Stat-wise Yao is a super center now, but obviously he is still a far cry from his predecessors. The biggest change to Yao this year is his confidence, and also the trusts and props from his teammates on the court. His increasing playing time and FG attempts make sense of his stats. Unless he can improve his defense, staminas, rebounding, TOs, foul troubles etc. substantially, it will be hard for him to be remembered at the same category of Hakeem and Shaq finally, and those are most difficult jobs for him other than the stats.

IMHO, these best center arguments are somewhat cheap and boring. In the past, the best center talk most of time was related to ring holders or the contenders, now with an older and older Shaq, this laureate has been greatly discounted. Even Yao can dump 34 points and 14 rbs every night on the head of a senile Shaq, so what? Yao is and is becoming the best center in the league, this still can't convince many guys. They cry that Yao should bring back a championship to Houston like Shaq did for Lakers, then he is legitimate. Actually it isn't a must for Yao to do this single-handedly to prove himself, he is the most important piece of this team now, I will be satisfied to see if he can contribute 26 points and 10 rbs or more night in and night out, Houston still needs to find the missing pieces and works on the team chemistry, then they will become the contenders finally, then these nay sayers will automatically shut up. The real contenders in the following a couple of years will still be Spurs and Mavs, we have and almost have blown them away, so there still has a good shot for us, what need to do is to repeat it in the playoff.

 

LOL, someone who is extremely dumb says other people are dumb...nice.

Here NewYorker tries to twist other people's words in order to win the debate...again. Hey...quote the person who says Yao was dumb not to understand the racial slurs, if you can. Some guys said Yao was new to this country so he did not understand them. Now you twisted what they said and then accused them of saying Yao was dumb not to understand the racial slurs. Seriously, you are a joke. Hey, were you born here? If not, when did you parents moved to this country? Imagine when your dad first came over here and he couldn't understand some racial slurs that someone yelled at him, I gusss you'd think your dad was dumb too. Right? LOL You post are just too easy to pick apart. You are just too easy to toy with. LOL

 

This thread has been derailed and thrown into the garbage.

 

I don't mean owning a business is a big deal because it might well just be a two man office with someone working under you for minimum wage. But it seems to me you have repeatedly tried to emphasize to everyone here that you own a business. I have no idea why you think it's important to do that. If you think owning a business brings you more respect then you are seriously delusioned. Anyway, you are a well-known liar so I doubt anyone here would believe whatever you say anyway. Your day job may well be flipping hamburgers in MacDonald for all I care (which is just as likely as you are really a professional in business IMHO). You are a broken record.

 

Kenny "the a$$" Smith said putting Shaq with Tracy McGrady, they r a contender. From what I see now, Yao and T-Mac are also contender! How about put Yao with D-Wade now, they are gurantee a REPEAT!!!!

Even a healthy 34year old Shaq with Wade this season, they are struggle mightyly yet those so-called basketball analysts still refuse to accept Shaq days are gone! Like other posters have mentioned, Shaq is not even 2nd best center in the league this season.

I find it funny when those analysts keep on mentioning Dwight Howard will be the best center in the future yet they also dont dare to say Howard is already a better center than shaq this season. Hmmm maybe they are not racists or yao haters after all, just that, to them, SHAQ IS GOD, no one dare to offend him!

 

i hope it's rox vs. heat in the final, and yao will shut the haters and doubters up once and for all

 

Racist or not, I just know NewYorker fantasize about sleeping with Wilt. But why'd he imagine himself to be a chinese woman? It's everyone's guess...

 

Literally. He was such a terrible perimeter defender, if the Houston defense didn't funnel guards into Hakeem he would have struggled to be a starter.

 

Another attempt of this fool to stir up race disputes on this bbs. I guess everyone can see what he is working on here. He has been trying very hard to isolate the group of posters who have been debating with him, picking his posts apart and exposing him as a pathetic liar. And the easiest way to isolate that group of posters is to call them YOFs. He will do two things to anyone who tries to expose his hypocricy. First he will chicken out and lie that he put the person on his imaginary ignore list because he is not a man to answer the tough questions. Then he will call the person a YOF. Now he tries to create tension between this group of so-called YOFs and the other races and nationalities of posters here. Yes... he's really this pathetic.

I feel extremely bad that NewYorker is using this bbs to foster his own agenda. It's really sad that this hypocrite is trying to turn this bbs upside down just because he needs to win a few debates on the internet in order to boast his own manhood. It's sad, very sad.

 

I'm not sure why the "who's the best center" debate is just starting in the national media. Yao dethroned Shaq as the king of all centers last season. Going to the Finals doesn't automatically make you the best at your position otherwise Zo is the second best Center in the league. Speaking of Zo, didn't he have more of an impact in the Finals than the Diesel?

The fact is that Shaq is living off his reputation. We know prime Shaq is a top 5 of all time center but that prime Shaq hasn't been around for nearly 5 years.

Kenny Smith and quite a few other guys need to step into 2006 and realize that Yao is the best and it isn't even close.

 

It's just funny that some morons here (New Yorker, RocketMac) are pathetic enough to try to turn it into a so called YOF vs. non-YOF, Chinese vs. non-Chinese issue when the likes of ZBoy (who's an Aussie), tigermission1 (who's a Muslim), heyP (who's a Rockets fan before neither of them probably were born), etc, also think Yao has already eclipsed Shaq.

It's quite sad really.

 

ok now I think you have some kind of a comprehension problem here...

first of all, I am not going to say anything about calling me a moron because I wont drop to such a low level as u... once again, I think you should go back and review the post of the "two rules" to be successful and not get schooled by people who really know basketball...

like I said in the beginning, you must have some kind of a comprehension problem..it's either that or you didn't take a minute to read anything I posted u "moron".. I didn't mention AT ALL the race thing.. just go back and read my posts... I didn't even get into the disagreement because it's a waste of time especially when the posters are a bunch of disrespectful newbs (like yourself) who dont understand anything... I just posted a reply to NYer and said "what did u get yourself into?".. I didn't even express my damn opinion.. now I am having a newb like u talking **** about me and saying stuff that I didn't even post OR imply... next time, before u attack a quality member, u better read their posts correctly..

and one more thing, who the hell do u think you are?? it's a rockets fans message board, u can express your opinion freely.. lets pretend for now that I said SHaq is still better than Yao (which I didn't, and u can find that out by reading my earlier posts, IF YOU HAVE TIME) who the hell do u think u are to judge my opinion or to even say it's stupid?? .. Zboy and Tigermission are great posters and I agree with them on a lot of things (Zboy and I had a lot of fun in the Alston thread and I love his sig)... but if u noticed, when they disagree with somebody on something, they dont go out calling them "morons" like you did.. that's because they are respectable members and because they respect others...

oh, and btw, I didn't even MENTION race.. and I didn't even say anything about race, did u read my freakin posts?? maybe NYer did, but I DIDN'T..

now I am not gonna put u on my ignore list for now because I really think that you are a good poster and I respect your opinion.. I am expecting an apology from u though...

 

I have no idea why this NewYorker has been trying so hard to stir up racial tension on this board. It's really sad that he is trying to wage his personal war on this wonderful board in order to foster his own little agenda. What can he really gain from it anyway? I just don't get it. This person is probably a loser in daily life. He has never been anything remotely close to being a difference maker in real life before. Therefore, he is trying to make a 'difference' here by creating racial tension and turning this board upside down. I know it's selfish and pathetic. But what else did you expect from this well-known hypocrite anyway?

 

Yao is a very good player that has taken some tremendous steps since late last year...I am very happy to see this since I am a Rockets fan for more than 25 years. I go back to the Mo Malone, Rudy T, Calvin, John Lucas & company years. I have seen the ups and downs and have been following the NBA since 1974 or 75 before I moved to Houston.

Yao is a special talent and it's only natural for his fans to want him to be the best center in basketball (today)...but what does that really mean when the game is moving to a smaller quicker lineup now with so many teams using 4's to man the 5 spot? Like my favorite Rocket of all time (Dream), he's getting better every year and yet he still has room to grow. He's putting up his best numbers @ 26 & 10 but there more in him than numbers and that's what any true Rockets fan should want to see.

Who cares if Yao (today) is better than Shaq (today)? Who cares if he's better than other 5's (Howard, Kaman or the rest)? The only thing that really matters is how well he plays for the Rockets and how he makes the game easier for his teammates because that's what all great players do. Dream did it and during that first championship...he was the only star with 4 role players.

Yao has talent this year and we should all enjoy it as well as his growth as a player. He is the best center today as evident of his play in the first season (regular) but can he continue this play over the next 70 games??? Who knows because he's never done it before...we all hope and pray but we'll have to wait and see. There's a second season coming (playoffs) and he's got to be even better during this season and his play then will determine how long and how far we go. His play then will add to his legacy and make or break all arguments about him being the top center in the game and whether he has surpassed Shaq! Man, I can't wait to see how this plays out...

I'm placing my money on Yao and the Rockets to prove a lot of people wrong...that's all that should matter today so Yao fans and rockets fans enjoy the rest of the season and try not to kill each other along the way...please!

 

Are you having fun picking on other people's grammar? I am not trying to be a di*k here either. But I think you are also one of the people who should proof-read before you click the button to post.

It is spelled grammar, not grammer.

And I don't even want to go into your use of punctuations.

 

I suppose that I am wrong for guilt by association. But then again, associating yourself with proven liars like New Yorker tend to get you labelled in the same category. To be fair, you are far more reasonable than New Yorker, so I apologize.

However, drop the YOF crap. It's nauseating. And labelling New Yorker as reasonable when he is not isn't gonna earn you any bonus points either.

 

be afraid very afraid.... new yorker is putting u on his ignore list... please add me to