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Yao, Mr. Unclutch

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AzCkR, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. the_hustler

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    O... good point.. i have not noticed that too much this season.. but you must be correct judging from the fact that tracy can handle the ball better..

    but do you remember the last wizards game when MAc got open locks when yao was doubled on the post during the 4 th quarter? We came back from behind because of Mac's 3 balls.. i dont think they were running pick and rolls during that game...
     
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    O... good point.. i have not noticed that too much this season.. but you must be correct judging from the fact that tracy can handle the ball better..

    but do you remember the last wizards game when MAc got open looks when yao was doubled on the post during the 4 th quarter? We came back from behind because of Mac's 3 balls.. i dont think they were running pick and rolls during that game...
     
  3. ibm

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    okay.

    so in your opinion, is yao clutch or not? any clutch player on our team this year?
     
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    Yeah, I don't remember what we or they were doing different that game.
     
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    By that time we maybe a .500 or below team looking from the outside in on the playoff race.

    But as long as Yao works on his "clutchness" at the expense of wins, it's all good.

    Then finally he hits a game winner at the end of the season....when we have been out of the playoff race already.

    Yeah you have a brilliant point.
     
  6. the_hustler

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    yeah true.. but the sad fact is we don't have clutch players in this team..
     
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    It's been said already (and actually WORKED IN PREVIOUS GAME), but I would have given the ball to Ron.
     
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    um ron scored 12 pts in the 2nd OT v. the jazz. and he scored 10 pts in the 4th.

    we could have gone to that guy no? and is that clutch?
     
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    I think there are different things that can go into making a player successful in the clutch.

    1. they have the ability to focus more in critical situations
    2. they get easier shots because the defense keys in on other players
    3. when other players are perhaps tiring, they can call up an extra reserve of energy due to the adrenaline
    4. the team runs a good plays for the player down the stretch which the opponent isn't well prepared for
    5. dumb luck

    I think often no. 5 has more to do with it than anything, but for some players and on some teams the others apply. Artest, for instance, relied on no. 3 against Utah to get the job done. Rafer often benefits from more wide open shots in the 4th quarter because teams are concentrating more on Yao or Tracy (no. 2).

    With Yao, I don't know if any of them really apply. I actually he is more susceptible to tiring in the 4th quarter than most players, so that could hurt him in clutch situations. Also, there aren't a lot of creative ways for Yao to score. Basically, if we're looking to run the ball through Yao, the opponent knows exactly what's going to come. So, no. 3 and no. 4 actually work against him.
     
  10. the_hustler

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    Agreed.. he had 10 ( not very sure) in the 4th q today i guess..
    thats clutch .

    to repharse my previous post...

    I was talking abt the last shot.. i mean.. we dont have "proven, consistent" sharp shooters on this team to rely on( except barry)..

    i don't think it is wise to go to centers for making that last shot.. and Yao is not really consistent with that fadeway jumper...

    the last shot should be taking by our wing guys.. i dont think any team goes to centers on a regular basis to make shots in the last 10 secs..

    look at the success orlando has with its buzzer beaters.... Hedo is a sharp shooter whom you can rely on... we have barry. but sadly .. he is never used here...


    and let me make it clear.. i dont blame Yao for this.. its on the coach..
     
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    yeah... either Ron .. or Barry.. or heck. Steve Novak for an open 3 !! (sad he is not here now)
     
  12. ibm

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    reasonable arguments.

    i can add in a 6th element - create contact down low and force a call. that was the case in the jazz game for ron, and also something that could work the best for yao in general; at least something yao needs to learn and improve on. of course, to count on the zebras kinda falls into your #5. but luck is a true element in any sport. had ron not had the "luck" of the whistles, the victor might have been the jazzholes that night.
     
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    again, when you go to yao with 7 seconds left for the last play, him shooting is basically the ONLY option.

    if you have tracy or even aaron brooks penetration, you either have them shoot or kick it out for an open shot (multiple options).

    i feel like for the last play, you usually have a perimeter player trigger it b/c you get more reads and thus can choose the play that is appropriate.

    once again, adelman needs to know that. it's like football. you don't just go to your first read.
     

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