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Yao Ming's Vote of Confidence in TMAC and Veto Garnett

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pryuen, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. McGradySNKT

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    Yes it is just you

    I've seen plenty of high fives, hugs, the 3 finger and much more. Please stop it :rolleyes:

    Thats not even qualification for a leader. If you want a cheerleader go and hire Mateen Cleaves or Ronny Turiaf
     
  2. McGradySNKT

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    Exactly my point. Its the Trade Tmac fans out in full bloom right now.

    They're creating problems that arent even there.
     
  3. tone-weezy

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    luckily, giving teamates high fives has absolutely nothing to do with leadership...
     
  4. xcomputerman

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    *sigh* ... It's going to be a looong summer.
     
  5. Champ06

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    Offseason will be interesting. I am looking forwards to the new team again... next season. Who are the starters....... :confused:
     
  6. pryuen

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    I did not pick this obviously quite controversial article just for the sake of stirring flame pitching Yao vs TMAC.

    I've just found it with alot of interesting points worthy of discussion. That's why I spent more than an hour for its full translation. If my long translation gives the TMAC supporters some discomfortness, I offer my apology.

    IMHO

    1. Yao Ming was right on his viewpoint that trading TMAC away for KG is not to the best interests of the Rockets due to the overlap in positions.
    2. This writer had a point about the never-say-give-up-and-quit attitude of Yao Ming, and his loyalty to his team and commitment to become a better player, which slowly but surely turn him into the current dominant player he is, and naturally transform him to becoming the Lao Da/Leader of this team.
    3. The writer also has a point of using Yao Ming as the focus of offense; and when I chose to translate it with the term Go-To-Guy, I really mean that every offense needs to go thru with the rock passed to the hand of Yao Ming. Opposing team will double-team and triple-team him. He will either attack the rim if he can find good position and finds space and room in the low post to over-power his opponents, score or draw fouls for free throws, or he can pass the ball out to the perimeter for his team mates to score from open-look mid-range jumpers or 3-pointers. That is the genuine inside-out strategy implementation.
    4. And being the Go-To-Guy does not mean Yao Ming necessarily be the guy that handle those clutch game-winning shot, the way TMAC (or players like Kobe) is doing all their career, because they can create their own shots, dribble and penetrate, and hit those beat-the-buzzer 3-pointers. TMAC should still be the first option for handling those clutch shots at the end.
    5. I also think the writer has a point in suggesting the Rockets should emulate what LA Lakers did during their championship era.
     
  7. pryuen

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    You're right that giving team mates high fives has absolutely nothing to do with leadership.

    So how about appearing at the court side to support and rave his team mates ?

    I've seen Yao Ming numerous time during his injury recuperation, showed up at the court side, raving and supporting his team mates (the Rockets or the national team) when he himself could not play.

    I seldom saw TMAC doing it.

    What about leading by examples, well illustrated by the persistence he put into team practice/strength-and-conditioning work-outs, and his daily review of video of games with his coach for self-improvement ?? The guy went to team practice at least 1 hour before every of his team mates, and left 1 hour after every of team mates gone for practicing his shots and strength and conditioning exercise in the gym day-in and day-out, as reported in Houston Chronicles and articles in the Chinese websites.
     
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    You seem to forget that TMac has a broken back and it's to his best interest to rest at home.
     
  9. ROXTXIA

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    Assuming the article is legit, we can understand Yao's concerns. T-Mac can spread the floor with passing and outside shooting.

    But how far are we gonna get with a superstar (TMac, natch) who's always a step away from the IL?

    Granted, we may have shut him down for the season because even making the playoffs would be pointless. How bad is his back? He can recuperate and hope for a solid season next year....with us or with another team.

    And trading for Garnett wouldn't mess us up as much as Yao might believe. KG can operate from the elbow/top of the key on down toward the basket. Two seven footers playing keepaway isn't a bad thing.

    And we wouldn't stand pat on the other roster spots. We'd have two lottery picks, we'd have to trade at least one of our other power forwards, etc etc.
     
  10. Everglory

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    Sorry, I cannot quite believe Sina...
    Sometimes, it really sucks.
     
  11. tone-weezy

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    thanks for giving us useless information.

    I guess since Yao was at practice during time out means McGrady wasn't? That him watching game tapes means tracy didn't/doesn't??? That him getting to practice early and leaving late means Tracy doesn't???

    at least thats the vibe from your post. Cause I dont really see the use of you telling me about yao's work habits. He's a hardworker....he didn't know that???
     
  12. langal

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    Trade them both for Odom and Mihm.
     
  13. pryuen

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    Well, if he can show up so cooooool with his sun glasses, tuxedos etc for Tuxedo & Tennies, I assume his broke back is not that worst that he could not move away from his sick bed.

    I remembered Yao Ming with his bandaged ankle still went to rave and support his team mates last season in the FIBA Stankovic Continental Champion Cup torunament in Beijing.

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  14. tone-weezy

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    and???
     
  15. declan32001

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    Hmm.. 7th post and your flaming someone for explaining why he created this thread - which contains some interesting info which you deem "usesless".

    And you're pick up on vibes? Good.
     
  16. Champ06

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    Pryuen, Why try to pit one star against another? They are both Rockets' players. Some players support the team in a different way. Maybe, the medical team do not want McGrady to aggravate his back further by jumping up and down on the bench. Yao can move every part of his body except toe but McGrady can't move his body because of his back.
     
  17. pryuen

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    It's OKAY.....as I reiterated, it is not my intention to stir fire.

    And it is so obvious that tone-weezy's #1 favorite player is TMAC, and my #1 idol is Yao Ming.
     
  18. Yetti

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    I have discussed this article and come to the conclusion :-
    a) It is untrue, because Yao Ming would never make the mistake of publically
    stating that he is siding with one senario rather than another.
    b) It is true and is his diplomatic declaration. I say this as the reasons given why Garnett would be clashing with Yao Ming are not exactly valid. Everyone knows that Garnett is a very versatile player and does not require the paint
    to be effective.
     
  19. ShadyMcGrady

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    What I can see is, the Chinese media has given up on T-Mac's leadership as well. Obviously T-Mac doesn't go crazy on high-fives, ass-slaps, etc. but that doesn't matter.

    What matters is that he took as far as he did in the playoffs last season, but obviously it takes more than that.

    He may not have the Kobe "Ironman" ruggedness, or the Pierce "Never Give Up" attitude, but I highly doubt he felt as calm as he looked after last season's playoffs. I also doubt he's as calm as he looks when he loses games.

    T-Mac loves Yao, Yao loves T-Mac, neither of them are going anywhere.

    I fully expect a healthy T-Mac who will be his normal self next season, and with Yao maturing as he has, this is going to be fun to watch if there are no injuries.
     
  20. kramer_k

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    what's interesting is the way Yao is talking these days.
    3 years ago I would never imagine Yao talking about what is wrong with the team - he'd always talk about what's right. Now he's developing into what we all wanted him to, which is a vocal and supportive leader of the team and a good player overall. T-mac already had developed this leadership style back in Orlando, and looking back a year he did lead the Rockets into the playoffs, not Yao. But now T-mac's injured and (I think) by default Yao should become a bigger leader (also, no one else can. do you want to see JHo leading us?).

    about the clutch shots thing: I agree that the center really isn't the right player to be shooting those game-winning threes or fadeaway Michael Jordan style type jumpers, but it is the centers that create those shots (sometimes). Luther Head is the most promising clutch player so far - he's forced games into overtime like 3 times already. Of course, no one really remembers a game winning layup by a center years later, since they're not really something spectacular enough to replay over on tapes on tv.

    IMHO, I think it'd be better to pair Yao up with a super-smart PG who scores like T-mac but knows how to get Yao in a good position.
     

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