An interesting deduction. I suspect you may think otherwise rather soon, however I believe someone has complimented the board and look forward to tomorrow. This is the off-season, does that have any meaning for you?
I just want to make my key points clear here in case Yao's NBA career is cancelled, which is very unlikely: 1. If Yao's deal blows up, it's Wang Zhizhi's fault first and Chinese government's fault second. 2. Disregarding national interest is not all the gripe I have against Wang, I and numerous Chinese fans are the biggest victims of Wang's indecent conduct. We not only lost someone like Wang we rooted for, but also a possible superstar in Yao Ming. So please don't use anti-communism stuff to support Wang's behaviour. It's not about politics or Wang's unpatriotism to me, to us it's about our love to Chinese basketball just like an American Bball fan. No matter how bad you paint the Chinese government, it's not oppressive for him to play some freaking summer games to repay the fans who bought tickets that pays his salary and supported his going to NBA. You can say he's not obligated to do so, fine, then I'm not obligated to make excuse for him either. I see Americans getting upset that top players like Duncan don't bother to show up in WBC when it's not his obligation to do so, well we feel worse when Wang refused to train for the WBC, and try to use not playing for Asian games as a condition to play in WBC. No matter what is his stance, it's undeniable what he's done makes him a corrosive inflence to China's NT so far and we don't appreciate that. Duncan isn't obligated to play, Duncan didn't hurt the NT in any way. Duncan and other players getting jumped on for not showing up. Wang did all the bad things and he comes off sqeaky clean. Now Wang does all this that might jeapardize Yao's NBA career, hurt the Rockets and their fans, and he's viewed as the guilt free white knight who's supposed to save China's basketball. Everybody just bashed China and not single one blamed Wang when it's crystal clear that he's the one instigated all these troubles for his personal gains. This is not understandable to me. Is the China hate so intense that Wang is justified to breach agreement, setup hurdles for Yao and the Rockets and hurt the Chinese fans? You guys can lash out all you want, but Yao Ming, I and the Chinese basketball fans are the biggest victims in all this sh#T. If Yao's release is cancelled we'll lose on every front - losing Wang as a respectable Chinese player, losing in the WBC, losing Yao's NBA career, losing China's basketball development for a decade... and we have to stand the non stop China bashing. Despite all this I say I'll still blame Wang Zhizhi first and China the second!
Confucious say the commies ****ing lied. Well, he didn't know about the commies, but he would have said it in this particular moment. Panda, your patriotism is duly noted. You'll have to forgive me, however, for not seeing your point. What is all of this rhetoric about 'face' and 'honor'. Usually when someone expects respect, they dole out respect. Apparently it's a mistake to dole out honor to honor-valuing people when they won't reciprocate, like a couple of friggin' 4 year olds. The Rockets have gone through numerous hurdles, and all we can see so far, is that the petty people on your side of the pond just expect them to go through more, at a moment's notice.
If you get a scholarship in the US you play for that school for 4 years. Generally they give you enough for a toothbrush, food and a decent place to stay. You also get training and experience, generally all for free. In China, they give you a toothbrush and some training and you are expected to be their slave for life. If you do not agree, they will make trouble for you and anyone else that will allow them to have their way. Since most students are incredibly proud of their school for the rest of their life and cherish the experience, why can't China just leave it at that?? Isn't it payment enough that your student, your countryman is doing well, representing your country with honor and skill. Not for them. Its play or else, and that is truly sad.
I can easily sympathize with Wang not wanting to train with the Chinese NT this summer. That team and its coach are utterly pathetic. Regardless of their talent level, the way they play the game is just frustratingly r****ded and I can see how Wang would rather just play pickup games in some LA high school gym than have to deal with the unprecedently unsavvy basketballl teammates who cannot bring the ball up court, cannot pass, will not pass, and appear to not give a damn when they lose. I can see how he'd rather not waste his time with a coach who doesn't know his head from his ass. Anyone who truly loves the game of basketball cannot possibly want to partake in how the Chinese NT disgraces the game with their bizarro-world basketball. Also, I hope Yao signs soon!!
It's different. If you have to compare, it's more like Yankee signs all these little guys in the minor league, give them big money in exchange for their playing time for yankees when they grow into better players. Or, if I take FBI money when I was little and I promise to serve for their top secretive program for relatively little money in the peak of my Career. Plenty of Chinese athletes play for other countries AFTER they leave Chinese NT.
originally posted by kubli9 Wang Zhizhi IS NOT DEFECTING! He has repeatedly proclaim his loyalty to the Chinese Government in front of the media, Chinese and Western, for many times... His actions are solely for the good of Chinese basketball... he realized how much Wang Fei and the incompetent Chinese Basketball Federation are behind in terms of basketball development and sense, that was why Wang Zhizhi decided to stay in the US to further enhance himself in his basketball skills... Wang Zhizhi wants to play for the Chinese NT and make a contribution to the team... and that is his number one goal...
That's no excuse for one not to practice with his teammates because they suck. Practice: better chemistry and better record for China. No practice: alienation from your teammates, corrosive lockeroom influence and worse record for China. Maybe you don't care, but I do.
Now extenting FBI example to Wang. If FBI thinks it's good for me and good for teh beauro that I sit on the board of a rich and famous corporation, they place me on that board on condition that I will still work for they if they need me in some cases, and I agree. Should I say :" Give me one more month here on the board, I can almost become their CEO if I stay just a little longer?" or "Sorry, I won't come back this time since I can learn a heck more expertise on this board, maybe I can help you more later." Well, I guess I may be able to get off the hook if I can hire some big gun lawyers, but that doesn't make me a better person.
You may care, but apparently Wang does not. Maybe he loves basketball more than he loves his country. I must admit that I do
A toothbrush and a bottle of milk means a hell lot more in China than in America, if you don't know that China is a developing country with 1.3 billion mouths to feed. Scholarships are baits to attract athletes, and investment is supposed to be profitable. Two different things. I consider it a loan to Wang Zhizhi that he needs to pay back. It doesn't make him a slave. Regardless, I think I see your point, CBA, the league that traded the rights of one of its best players for $350000 and a promise of NT service, is asking for too much in your eyes.
Maybe it's more apt to say Wang likes money, Nautica, and pretty American babes more than he loves his country. I can't blame him for that, but I don't think that is all there is to being a man.
Regardless of whether Wang is right or wrong for ignoring Chinese NT requests this summer, his situation should have no bearing on Yao Ming's plight. Ming has appeared to do everything asked of him for his country thus far. Sadly, he is being manipulated by the powers to be in China. Do you know if Yao has any sort of recourse, for example, can he appeal to another governing body or can a hearing be held in a Chinese court?
my friend once saw zhuzhu eating in a Chinese restaurant in Montery Park, CA(near LA, very large Chinatown) with a young girl. then he drove with her with his new mercedes 400. sigh, I don't blame him. may America change him, but I still miss our young, innocent zhizhi.
Why pile all that on Yao Ming? He has nothing to do with any of this, yet he pays the price. It is not honorable to even 'threaten' ruin on one man over your anger at another. You keep going back to this 350k for Wangs rights. The possibilities are 2 - they get the 350k + prestige for fielding an NBA caliber player + possibly their percentage of Wangs salary (which we don't know if they'll get or not), or the other possibility - they get nothing, lose any goodwill from Wang, and have an unhappy player stuck on a poor Chinese team. It stands to logic they did in fact make the correct choice, now whether or not they can maintain the goodwill of Wang remains to be seen.
