The reason the northeast is the center for finance is because it is the oldest area of the country. However don't be naive, the reason Texas has had so many presidents in the white house is because Texas is home to some of the world largest and richest companies including technology companies. You can talk about the mid-west all you want but "DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS"
As a fellow Chinese dude, I have to say that you're really twisting the fact on why Wang wanted to stay in the US... The old Confucian hierarchy and the philosophy of obedience towards superiors is really the foundation to the century-old disgrace suffered by the Chinese civilization since 1841... It is nice to be listen and follow to the wise words from one's superiors, but not if the superior asked his subjugates to do something that does not make any sense at all... and that inhibits further improvement and advancement... As I told a few pages before, Wang was just doing for the good of Chinese basketball... He wants to further improve his skills and to contribute for the Chinese NT in the recent World Games... if not, why did he still met with the NT at Oakland? If he's in the US for some bling-bling, why did he not defect, as suggested by a number of members in this forum? Please answer, Panda...
<blockquote><i>originally posted by fwang</I> After reading many posts, my perception about the image of Houstonians are they are a bunch of conservative southerners who are narrow-minded. Anything and everything they can not understand they will attribute to olddie communisms. </blockquote> So what do you think about that quote, michecon?? How does that rank with, "Shame on China." hehe
Doesn't the midwest have more presidents than Texas? Before Bush Sr's term, there isn't a lot of big tech frim in Texas, well unless you count oil companies as tech. Nothing against Texas, just for arguments sake.
Even though I will be labelled as a "counter-revolutionary" by Chinese mainland-based members, I will have to say that Wang Zhizhi is a martyr to the cause of Chinese basketball...
As far as basketball is concerned, that is a slam dunk question. Rudy T. and Houston Rockets had the experience to develop and use the center. I would be the first one to admit that Houston is an excellent choice. NY and LA certainly are also well known for thier ability to develop and utilize big men. Not sure about Chicago or San Fran though. What I am concerned about the conservative environment that surrounds him. Yao Ming travels a lot and he was born and raised in Shanghai, China's New York. He is used to be very open minded and diversity. I do not think that conservative environment will help him develop. I have no doubt that he will get used to Houston. If he develops well and maybe you Houstonians will love him and treat him nicely, he may decide to renew his contract. But I think it is too early to predict that.
Heypartner is a respected poster on the BBS of long standing. He gets on some peoples nerves at times (as some of the BEST posters do), but I wouldn't describe him as "one of the most biased" or "one of the most emotional" posters on the BBS. That would describe several of the recent posters trying to defend the actions of the CBA and whoever else in China is holding up Yao's signing. Some of you "newbies" (a word I don't like to use, but it fits) are fast wearing out your welcome. You make personal attacks on other posters who disagree with you and get in a snit when they reply in kind. It's really getting tiresome. The London Times reported that Yao was expected to sign this week. A local paper of no consequence? Hardly. Heypartner is biased about the Rockets, as are the vast majority of us. It's called being a fan. While typing this I noticed that the attacks have broadened to the region Houston is in, the city itself, and people here in general. As if this is some monolithic entity in which we live. If my father, a very broad-minded university department chair who traveled the world, could read this... well, he would laugh out loud. Some of you are making a running joke out of yourselves.
Heypartner and fwang You can bash players,coaches and so on.......,but never a country or a culture!!!thats against what we are doing! And heypartner If you are not intellegent enough to understand this(I think you are) then we had no reason to.............
<blockQUOTE>Originally posted by Yetti Hetpartner:- I feel sure you just want to spout on the BBS. You are spouting with a lot of guess work and assuming things you dont have any idead about the Truth of the matter. </blockQUOTE>I don't have to be Marc Cuban's secretary to know the rules of basketball. You are wrong. Wang is not a Dallas Maverick, and Cuban has no control over him. That is the rules of the NBA. Unlike the CBA, the NBA has well defined rules of player contracts ... we don't invent it as we go, here. It is all in writing and downloadable to your desktop. This is called the Collective Bargaining Agreement. The NBA owners locked out the players in 1998 to force this thing to be written between them and the Player's Union. I find Chinese officials have no clue about this, and that is part of all the misinformation floating about. Wang ZhiZhi is a free agent and not a Dallas Maverick. It was a "Qualifying Offer" that Cuban sent him. Any previous documents he had with the CBA are useless if Wang ends up signing with another team, and he is definitely shopping himself. Here is a Wang quote: <blockquote>A 1999 second-round draft pick by the Mavericks, Wang hopes to re-sign with Dallas. "<b>It really depends on the situation with the other teams, and on the money,</b>" he said. "Talk to Mavs owner Mark Cuban." </blockquote>What he means there is he is shopping himself as a free agent. Cuban is merely one of the suitors. Cuban does not "own" Wang's contract, because Wang is not even under a contract right now.
Yes you're right michecon, I was born in `81... I have to agree with you Deckard, this thread has become a hate thread... with ppl from other areas in the US bashing against each other just because they live in different areas... while some Chinese and American members shouting rants regarding to who's best... If you wanna bash someone just because they live in different parts of America and the World, you've come to the wrong thread...
I have a concern as well, which is sure to irrate some of the foreign posters: should Yao Ming just remain in China and be developed under a totalitarian and oppressive environment? Is he better off just staying on the coast of China in Shanghai since it is such an open-minded bastion of innovation & commerce(fireworks, McDonald's Happy Meal toys, rubber-soled athletic shoes), unpopular culture, and politics by the people and expressly for the people?? Maybe this mid-west Houston place will not be such a good idea for young Yao.
Have you ever heard of Dell, Compaq, EDS. The largest PC firms in the world. Also the telecom industry in the US is concentrated in Dallas with the US headquarter of Nortel, Erricsen, Alcatel, being located there. In regards to presidents, G-dubb, George Sr, LBJ came from Texas. Bill Clinton comes from a town 90 miles north of Texas. So in recent years, the south has done very well. The midwest historically might have more but Texas didn't become a state until the mid 1850's.
Fine. You can call me a newbie and claim that I am not welcome. I would've cared less about this forum had Yao Ming not been drafted by Rockets, to be honest. I joined the broad hoping to learn mroe about Yao Ming's future life in Houston and the bball talk. But the BBS has quickly degraded to political bashing and cultural bashing. Who started to call "Shame on China." It was Heypartner. I can hardly respect someone who initiates the bashing.
<blockquote>Originally posted by himself Heypartner and fwang You can bash players,coaches and so on.......,but never a country or a culture!!!thats against what we are doing!</blockQUOTE>I couldn't agree more myself, himself. (that's sounds weird using your name like that.) fwang does not know me, and many newbies don't. I do not bash China. I've been a very vocal defendent of Chinese culture here way before Yao was even an issue. I am getting slightly miffed that I'm being included in the same breath as to blatant (very blatant) bashing of our city, state, and culture. All I said in obvious tongue and cheek was "Shame on China." And accused CBA officials of lying to the Rockets. We bash Stern more than that. People here have accused Hakeem of lying to the press, and said a lot more worse things about his agent. No one said we were bashing Nigeria. Don't make this a Chinese/communism issue!! That's not right. I consider it an issue of ignorant CBA officials like the head man, who likes to paint and hates his job. I know that about him, because I care and have read up on the CBA since May, and read many articles about its history, owners and organization. Li Yaomin is a puppet of his owner, who own a TV company. He has no basketball background. He was a journalist. He often retracts his comments, because he speaking on things he doesn't know or control I know these things, because I care about Chinese culture and understanding their basketball league. I am a fan. Now, like Deckard says above, colors are indeed showing from some of our new bandwagoners.
I think he will find Houston is very diverse and the people here are open minded and friendly (in my experience much more so than NY, for example). It is very modern and has all the technological and cultural advantages of a large metrpolitan area. The U.S. enjoys vast personal freedoms. The money he will make will allow him to enjoy many things in life, whether it be cultural, the people, food, education, entertainment, material things, religion - about anythng he wants from life. This is capitalism, you are talented and work hard and you usually reap the rewards. What you do with it at that point is your personal freedom of choice. Other than his fame, people in general here will let him do and be what he wants to. In those ways, and correct me if I'm wrong, he will have even more opportunity in this enviroment than in China. If he wanted to be an actor in 3 years he could - whatever his intelligence, education, talent, hard work and sucess will allow him to choose. Believe me, he does not want to play for Golden State. He is not going to LA. And I personally feel the NY press and NY would overwhelm and suffocate him. He will get to travel the U.S. and see the diversity of not only the U.S. but Houston itself as well. In his off time (hopefully not the all star break - he should make the rookie team - at least) he will have plenty of time to explore, enjoy, travel etc.. Yao Ming is coming home - to Houston...
The pc market didn't take off until the 90's. EDS the second largest services company behind IBM started in the 70's. I also forgot to mention Texas Instruments who was a really big player in the tech market. I don't understand your argument, what was really big tech before the 80's and 90's besides IBM.
