Yao Ming targeted? JVG might have been right in 2005

The Houston Rockets are the Ron Paul of the NBA. And the refs r as crooked as i thought they were.Its scary how many of my conspiracy theories have been proven right,

 

gotta comment on this because ppl are parroting this argument. the reason it went to game 7 is the crappy calls when houston went up in the series and the reason why yao never got fully established in the paint is how they officiated him on offense and defense.

it's ridiculous to point to game 7 after a major momentum swing and say it negates previous bad calls. who knows how the game would have been officiated if the rockets hadn't run out of gas and collapsed? the NBA is great at covering its ass with makeup calls and just enough wiggle room to get by. it's like when phil jackson were arguing that the ball hit the rim on the play prior to Barry being fouled... not that there wasn't a blown call there at the end but that this or that or other thing somehow makes 2 wrongs into a right. let's assume game 7 unlike other games in the series would have been called clean if it was close... does that make the previous games okay? wtf kind of logic is that

for the record the league probably had no preference whether houston or dallas advanced just that it went to 7 games... dallas is larger metro market and had cuban as a league "personality" and a major foreign star in dirk. in its favor, houston had a better league "history" to hype if they advanced into the late rounds and a major foreign star in Yao... a wash basically it's not like stern ideally wanted either team to advance to the finals

you cannot prove one way or the other that stern specifically wanted dallas to advance but it's well established that because of the influence of a powerful league entity off the court (in this case mark cuban) the league targeted a specific player and influenced officiating to impact a series.

that's tampering. the league office should never impact how a series plays out. I dont understand why the owners dont take this up... they need to get stern out of there to change the entire corporate culture and how officiating is handled

 

the Chinese have been a closed market in the past... just recently opening up with its economic boom...

to have a 7'6 guy come over and dominate, be the best player in the league would not be advantages to the NBA...

the Chinese might get the idea that their players and league are the best in the world...close up the borders.... and so no need to send players to the NBA...

having Yao as one of the best players in the league... is good enough... keeps the billion Chinese watching... and wanting more...

 

I amnt surprised with the news. Everyone can see how biased the refs were and still are. If we want to get out of first round or win the ring, the refs are the first one we need to hope for to be impartial.

 

well at least that year seeing a dirk/cuban matchup versus nash (who had just left the team) in the second round would be a lot more interesting nationally than seeing a rockets suns matchup that year. Not saying that Stern made it so dallas moved forward, but if we're talking about ratings and money it would be far more beneficial for the league to have a mavs/suns series that year. (not as much anymore, but at least that season for sure)

teams send in tapes all the time about what they feel is unjust but i've never heard the league saying they'll look just for that one player committing that foul, but rather they would call that one type of foul stricter for both sides. I remember seeing diop, dampier, bradley, dirk all setting the same type of moving screens yao was doing in games 3-5 without any calls thats what pisses me off and imo that is tampering by creating an unfair playing field right away.

 

MLWOO probably thinks there are still weapons of mass destruction left in Iraq

 

This is the BEST and WORST thing that could happen to the NBA.

Worst that it hurts credibility and best because now Pandora's box has been open and Stern is going to be forced to do the right thing. (hopefully)

 

Technically there were WMD's in Iraq--they were just really, really old.

To drag this back to basketball the allegations about the Houston/Dallas series aren't nearly as egregious as the ones about the Kings/Lakers. In the former you basically have a situation where the league instructs its refs to pay special attention to a player. That's still crappy, but if I'm not mistaken in the Kings/Lakers series the refs were out to change the outcome of the game and give a victory to the Lakers.

 

ummm....wtf??? lol, that is the strangest logic ive ever heard

 

thats how they think.... why do you think Yao is in the NBA... to show case his talent to the rest of the world... and show how great China.... is!!!

 

Happens every year. You used to be able to predict who would be in the final 8 teams of each NBA playoff by checking the Sunday NBC Ratings for teams and which teams are on every Sunday. Over the last 20 years, there have been few finals in which two of the "NBC" (now ABC) teams did not make the finals. Some of that is because they are good. A lot of that is television drawing power. Let's face it, the Kings were not a good draw. Does anyone think the Celtics/Hawks first round was not made for Television ESPN/TNT Drama to try to draw some interest to a bad cakewalk conference? The outcome remained the same but a lot of people tuned in to see a possible train wreck. They certainly got Lebron on for 7 games but ultimately the top two teams and draws got to the final game.

 

Refereeing is without question the biggest problem I have with basketball as a whole. The game is regularly taken over by referees to a degree that does not happen in any other sport. I don't watch basketball as much as I used to because of that. The level of subjectivity in refereeing is staggering. The decision to call a foul is entirely the referee's decision because a foul occurs basically on every possession in basketball. That's why the sport is so susceptible to corruption and why the NBA has used such an armageddon-style strategy to defend the supposed integrity of the game (like a tobacco company denying that cigarettes cause cancer).

Referees decide based on totally illegitimate factors. To an unbelievable degree, a player's status, the game situation, the series situation, the crowd, "momentum," and league higher-ups dictate the way a game is called. When a team goes on a run, the referees can essentially decide whether to continue it or stop it.

In baseball, every umpire has his zone, but he is generally consistent with it, other than giving perhaps a small advantage to superstars. However, in basketball, the referees are visible and are essentially participants in the game. They preen and pose for the camera, some are so confrontational that they eject Rockets for no reason, and their personalities are more visible than in any other sport.

Referees are human, and so they make mistakes in every sport. However, basketball refereeing has driven me so crazy that I watch the sport less as a result. As long as the league persists in denial, it will waste the opportunity it now has to improve its legitimacy.

 

Here's what's wrong with all of that. You can't cheat a team if your team puts the ball in the bucket. We lost the Dallas series because we couldn't shoot straight in our own building. As a matter of fact, shooting has been our weaknesses since Yao and Tmac joined forces.

You can't cheat me, if I'm scoring on you.

 

Sorry for bumping this thread but....

I understand what you mean when you say the Rockets wheren't able to score on Little D in that series. But what do you mean that they " can't cheat me if I'm scoring on you" ? If you're scoring and they call a foul on you every other time down the court, does that make you less aggressive defensively as well as OFFENSIVELY? But you are correct, the rest of the team needed to make baskets and they couldn't.

 

What really irks me is how it's commonly accepted that there's two standards of officiating, one for "stars" and one for everybody else. If that were true in any other sport there would be riots.

 

Just bumping this thread to give STERN a BIG F U

 

Anyone read this article? i noticed it wasn't in this tread... Apparently the FBI believe Donaghy!

Well there you have it.... the FBI believes Donaghy. Who is Stern trying to fool now?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=3439659