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Yao Ming Rejected for Taiwan Charity Visit, China Times Reports

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by jsmee2000, Aug 25, 2007.

  1. yuantian

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    hm... that sounds a little bit of a double standard to me. indian conservations treated as separate isn't really separate at all. so that doesn't really count. and as far as i can tell, there isn't any african american build country in north america. lastly, i respect your personal opinion. but do you really think, others would agree with you? like ted nugent, john mccain... and george the bush.
     
  2. yuantian

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    easy now panda :D no more eunuchs allowed. that's just too much :D
     
  3. Panda

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    You emphasized having a close/transparent/non protectionist economic relations as a condition, can I regard that as your admittance to the legitimacy of higher priorities(such as economy factors) to a country over self determination of its people?
     
  4. KingCheetah

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    As long as you do not declare yourself "independent" you will be fine under the 'One Earth Policy' (OEP).
     
  5. SamFisher

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    No, Indian reservations are definitely treated as separate, which is why they have their own laws, police force, etc.

    Well, try Jamaica, Haiti, Dominican Republic, many other carribean nations - there are plenty of primarily african american inhabited and run/administred\ cities in the US.

    And honestly, I would not be in favor of it, but I don't think an african american separatist movement would be as controversial as you might think here- for various reasons both malevolent and benign.

    Probably not, and that is one of the great things about the ol'USA. Lots of opinions, we all get to express them, and jerks like Nugent, McCain, and GWB eventually get found out and fall out of favor.

    Hmm, no, not really I don't see a higher economic priority. In many circumstances, (including, e.g., china and taiwan TODAY) economic conditions would naturally such matters. Now, in certain circumstances, a degree of uniformity is necessary to overcome collective action problems and races to the bottom . And in some instances, places like Puerto Rico would voluntarily opt to remain part of the US absent coerciaon, due to economic benefits - but this cannot be used as a crutch to excuse domination and colonialism.

    Look, if you wanted to grant Tibetans or Uighurs or Taiwanese the same status that the US grants Puerto Rico or the Sioux nation or whatever - I woudl be fine with that.

    But obviously China is a long way from there.
     
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  6. Panda

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    LOL. Nice one.
     
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    [​IMG]

    With a simple enlargement the differences in color are clear and present.
     
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    That and some photo chopping.....
     
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    Indian reserves are equivalent of sovereign nations? LOL ... you are getting more ridiculous by the minute, Sammy. Since when have the Indians volunteered to be restricted on their tiny reserves? Apparently your White Man's Burden is no match for your absurdity? :confused:
     
  10. Panda

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    Without penis enlargement and change in colors and all that Taiwan is still part of China on that map.

    With a little inspection, it's obvious that that cities of China is marked by its name, such as Beijing, Guangzhou and Taipei. The island province of Taiwan is marked as well as another island province of China, Hai Nan Dao.

    Not that a map matters, just an observation.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    you need to read up on the law my friend- or better yet travel to your local indian reservation and see how wrong you are.


    Look, my bro, let me tell you again. If Chinese offered their occupied territories the same degree of autonomy that us modern civilized Yanks offer Indian rez's, you would not have to worry about jailing dissidents and colonizeing places nearly as much as you do now.
     
  12. yuantian

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    well, reservations have own police force, laws etc. they are still part of USA. unless they get listed in UN, then it doesn't count. jamica, domenican republic, etc., they were NOT part of US before. so that doesn't count. it's true, those people won't be in favor forever. but other people with similar views will emerge later. that's another thing cool about US. nothing will be eliminated. another george bush will be popular in the future. count on it. btw, uighurs, tibtens, all have their own province. so really, independence is not an issue. the real issue should be, how to co-exisits with chinese. how chinese can help them in development. no longer sees each other as different, but as friends. that's a more realistic goal than independence.
     
  13. yuantian

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    :D guys, obvisously kingcheetah is wasting your time right now. don't fall into the trap :D
     
  14. Panda

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    Thanks for the reply. According to your reply, I gather that economic benefits, whether coming naturally or not, is a condition that trumps self determination.

    Can't say that for sure, China isn't interested in dominate or "colonize" Taiwan. Colonialism is a western invention. That's why one country two systems is offered. China deems it's in her best interested to keep her land at least legally attached, and let time resolve differences between two sides.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Notice the body of water separating the two nations ~ the Taiwan Strait -- not the Strait of China.

    With this I have added the final nail in the coffin of the 'One China Policy'.

    Enjoy your sovereignty oh mighty Taiwan.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    KingCheetah, enough inflammatory pictures of Taiwan's encirclement of China. Warmongering of this ilk is not tolerated. :mad:
     
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    The only trap in this thread is the overt attempt to lure innocent citizens of the internet into the den of communism.
     
  18. yuantian

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    LOL @ Taiwan Strait. Since when did a country name a strait "China Strait". The "American River" (Mississippi). When both sides are part of the same country? It makes perfect sense that it's called Taiwan Strait :D Notice, it's only called East China Sea, South China Sea, when the other side is actually NOT China. "Taiwan Strait" is such a good argument. Thank you for supporting re-unification :)
     
  19. yuantian

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    Communism? :D None of us are communist LOL Please don't mistaken Nationalism with Communist :D
     

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