Yo, i don't know how u doubt the basketball IQ of Yao, infact, one of my chinese friend read me a interview with Yao in chinese, and i'm pretty damn sure that the kid knew how to play ball and knew it well from what i heard. this kid made to chinese basketball league when he was 16 years old, and play with jordan when he was 18, both of his parents r basketball player too. if he ain't got no iqs, what u think that 30-something ppt coming from? maybe he's little bit week from playin all around the world for all summer long right now. but after few month of fitness to gain his upper body muscles and get into the games, he'll be ready to kick some ass! i don't know if ya'll yankees r jealous that ya'll can't pick Yao to be next Ewing, or just wanna find some trouble around here, but i'm sure Yao gonna prove u wrong.
Stoudamire and Butler have rookie contracts... how much is a standard NBA rookie contract? Im not sure how the 'growing up with no parents has anything to do with stress in the NBA" but maybe you can enlighten me. Aren't first round rookie contracts guaranteed? Either way the NBA minimum is around 200K. My momma fed the whole family with 18K Im guessing Butler has a lot more room to breathe. Im pretty sure you can feed a whole family with a few million dollars.
give this kid a break!!!!!!!!!!!!! it is even hard for college players to make transection into NBA! if you think Dunvely is wroth the No 1 pick than Yao, check his stats so far, he is no better than ming and he is no international player like Ming, Dunvely is born here in US and played 3 yr in college! Jay william is said to be NBA ready and his stats isn't that impressive either. Ming is scoreless in 2 games, so? he is in a better team that don't need him to score, unless the bulls and the warriors! Ming will be good in 2 yrs, mark my word
Because watching him on the court it shows. And when was he on the same team as Jordon? That's pure fallacy. I hear all the excuses: He's tired. He's learning a new language He's trying to learn all the plays. He's a rookie. He's shy No one passes him the ball. If Yao starts kicking ass in 3 months, hey, that's great. But it's not going to happen. This kid is minimum a 2-year project if he remains injury free. Yao is a project. With a capital P. Everyone from Rudy to Yao to analysts say that. Only you guys think otherwise. Hey, I'm sorry if you just assume that because on NYC I have a problem with Yao. That's your presumptions. The truth is, I'm a Rockets fan, not a Houston fan, nor a Yao Ming fan. That's what you and others simply can not accept. Judging me just because of where I am from is weak. Stick to basketball. You may now nothing about basketball, but attacking people personally is just weak and shows poor character.
What can be discerned at this point: 1) People in the industry say he can play; 2) They also say he has much to learn; 3) They also say he has incredible upside; 4) He has not played enough minutes for any of us to assess how much of an impact ha can have by the end of this season. Any claims you make beyond that are pure speculation, not 'reality'.
Your #4 is incorrect. He has shown enough that he is not ready for the NBA yet and he won't be a factor this year. He's not an impact player, he's a project. Why is that so hard for you to accept?
Yao Ming has shown flashes of his skills. Once his confidence goes up he will become one of the best centers in the NBA. He has a lot of potential. Right now he just needs to get accustomed to the NBA play, get more upper body strength, and start intimidating!! I'm pretty sure that in time the topic will be "Yao Ming is very awesome.
Um, why is it so hard for YOU to accept that you don't know anything more or less than the rest of us about how Yao will pan out? You can SAY he won't be a factor this year, but unless you've been hanging with Miss Cleo, you don't really know, do you?
New Yorker, Saying something like "yao is a minimum 2-year project" just goes to show that you probably haven't seen him play. Oh, and all that BULL about NY fans not being homers, how about when all the fans were saying things like "No player is worth Nene Hilario, no way we trade the pick". How about when you expected to make the playoffs last year? What about all the hype about Allan Houston? I, for one, ahve been to NY boards, and there's nothing different there. There's nothing different on any fan board. Every fan of every team has expectations that are based on being a FAN. As for your comments on Yao, they are somewhat accurate. The #4 is NOT incorrect. You mentioned yourself all the problems he had. Language, culture, food, training, fatigue....It's an endless list, and you'd have to be a fool to say that it doesn't matter. After the All Star break is where Yao will start showing glimpses of the future, and by the end of the year, he will be a top 5 C in the league. ANOTHER thing....When we say he's going to make the All STar game, it's not because we think he deserves it, it's because of the sheer volume of chonese fans that will vote through the coming chinese version of NBA.com. 95% of the chinese people that will vote will have Ming as their C. Furthermore, a LARGE percentage of them will have Steve as their PG, which makes one sure-fire all star, and one possible All Star. Mobley almost made it 2 years ago, he may be in the running for a bench place. How about NY? Do you think you'll have any Knicks in the All Star game? Lets just say the chances that Allan Houston makes the All Star game as a bench player are slightly higher than Ming's chance of starting. ESPECIALLY if Shaq decides not to play.
I don't know what the Knick have to do with this thread, but the Knicks suck. I've never been a Knicks fan, so discussing them is about as interesting as discussing the Denver Nuggets. The problem with this Knicks is not the players, it's the management. Yao won't be voted into the All-star game. Who will vote in a guy averaging a couple pts a game or a few rebounds to make an ass out of himself? I hope he doesn't get voted in, it'll probably be embarrassing for him. If you say all the excuses matter, then that's more reason it will take time for him to adjust. Yao ming is trying to do something very difficult, the jump he's making to the NBA is not small. There isn't guaranteed success. There is no way he can be useful this year...he is simply too weak. He's not going to get stronger during the season nor does he get an off season. When is he going to have time to work on his body? Because until he does that, he's just not going to be anything but a shawn bradley no matter how much "skillz" he has.
The main reason Yao was brought here was for the money the rockets would make with a new fan base in China, and their merchandise getting sold their. If the rockets wanted to get a player to make them a play off contender it would have been the true huskie, Caron Butler.
Uh, Butlers not doin that great. He gets a lot of minutes at 38/game but just 5 boards and shoots a bad 41%. He has a long way to go as well. THESE ARE ROOKIES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Give them a break.
Nice job of selective history. Did Radmanovic throw up 29 ppg or did he struggle in his rookie year? <b>There is no way he can be useful this year...he is simply too weak. He's not going to get stronger during the season nor does he get an off season. When is he going to have time to work on his body? Because until he does that, he's just not going to be anything but a shawn bradley no matter how much "skillz" he has. </b> New Yorker no disrespect but you're annoying. Funny how you whine about us making excuses and present your opinions as gospel. It also goes to show you don't know ANYTHING about Yao. You claim you do then you say he doesn't have an offseason and compare him to Shawn Bradley. If you knew what you were talking about you would know that Ming doesn't play international ball every offseason. The only reason he is playing ball during last summer and this upcoming offseason is so that China can qualify for the Olympics. He doesn't play international ball every offseason and he doesn't play it ALL offseason. The only reason he played a ton of it this offseason was because he happened to have an Olympic international games qualifier that had the U.S. and others. Does the U.S. play in this every offseason? No. Then why would you think that Ming plays in this every offseason? Why don't you go worry about your Knicks because you're annoying the hell out of us acting like you know everything about Ming.
<b>Yao is slow and weak, that's why he looks so bad. </b> And you can notice this in 7 minutes of action? And the reason he is playing 7 to 10 minutes is because he didn't have a training camp or a preseason. Right now this is his training camp and preseason. <b>I never said his career is made or not, he's just a project, and projects don't deserve more PT, they deserve less. His Basketball IQ is less then other rookies from foreign countries. His ability to post up is near 0. He hardly blocks shots for someone his height. He gets few rebounds. He defends by fouling his opponents.</b> Wow, that sounds like a rookie doesn't it? <b>Yet you claim he is stong and quick? Get a grip on reality.</b> He has only played a few minutes per game, why don't you get a grip on reality. <b>I love how your only fire is to attack that I dumped Houston and moved to another city. That obviously really hurts your feelings. At least Knicks fans have realistic views of their players and aren't homers. They know their team sucks, and they know which players have been overhyped and don't go on making an ass out of themselves by making ridiculous claims like "Yao Ming will make the All-Star team" or will average "13pt, 8 reb" this season. </b> Look who needs to get into reality now! Oh yeah, New York fans are SO knowledgeable! New York fans have a knowledgeable, realistic view on their players and aren't homers, that's why they think they're going to make the Finals and win the NBA championship eveyr year. If you and your New York brethren are so smart why are you here? Because you're making an ass out of yourself on this board. <b>What knowledge is that based on? Homer Knowledge. As in Homer Simpson Knowledge.</b> You're fast becoming a troll. If you were so knowledgeable being a New York fan and all, you would know that Ming doesn't play every offseason. Yet you ran over here with all of your great knowledge and claimed that Ming wouldn't get a chance to work out because he doesn't have an offseason. But since you don't know a thing about Ming you didn't know that this past offseason was a rare situation because of the Olympic qualifier. <b>Deal with reality. Yao right now sucks. He's a long term project. There's a good chance he will fade away or get injured, that's a reality, and if that happens, it will probably end Carroll Dawson's Career as it should.</b> Get with reality, the New York Knicks suck, Scott Layden will be fired, and the Knicks will be stuck in cap hell for the next 20 years. There's a good chance you will be in the lottery for the next 50 years. That sentence bother you? Then stop coming over here like a troll and talking about how Yao Ming sucks and how guys could lose their jobs. That is just troll garbage. <b>Your whiny personal attacks only serve as a disservice to this BBS and the people on here who actually wish to discuss basketball. Stick to the argument buddy, or shut up. </b> And your whiny comments about how great New York fans are and how they don't overhype people and how they're not homers tell me you think your above people on this BBS. I mean how much of a homer do you have to be to come over here and praise how great New York fans are. New York fans are just like any other fans, some are good and some are bad. And some come over here and rip into a rookie after 2 weeks like you did.
Why do fans from other teams come here? They must be bored of their own teams. If this was a general basketball forum then I would understand, but this is a Rockets forum.
