Yao Ming: Carroll Dawson Knows Me Better As A Coach

Yes, blame JVG every single thing thats gone wrong with the Rockets. Would it be too much to think that maybe just maybe their schedules never allowed them to work together? Hakeem does not live here, he visits. Yao has been going back to China after every season. This year, the World Championships are in the USA, so Yao is waiting in the states for his China team to arrive. Which is just perfect because Hakeem happens to be in town during the playoffs. This has been the FIRST time these guys have been free from their busy schedules to set up a session together.

Sure, blame JVG for anything and everything you want. But don't stoop so low that you are starting to blame him for something he had no control over. If Yao and Hakeem could have met earlier, they would. They're schedules just never allowed it until now.

 

It was a good thread until I saw Ewing bashing......

Ewing is a legend.

Yao---ugh---utah----still learning.

 

Is dennis CD a former employee of the JVG regime?

 

De-Gundification is never too late.

 

agreed. but then again, i am starting to feel bad about all the things i've said over the years.

 

I am guessing not much. There is a reason why he got replaced in a year.

Frankly, Ewing got hired as a personal favor by Van Gundy. Van Gundy felt he owed Ewing for getting him his first head coaching job and wanted to return the favor when the brother needed a job.

 

Nepotism is another good reason to fire Gundy.

 

I don't think so, i think that Yao really needed a mentor, and Ewing was the closest thing to a basketball player that Van Gundy had up in NY. Gundy was desperate, hell, he even brought in Oakley at one point in time! It's just Yao is not a bruiser, thats why I am elated about him and dream.

 

I had no idea Ewing and JVG were related!

 

are u kidding me? this is the same yao facing this jazz team? and u gotta remember the defense ewing anchored w/ the knicks. yao's D is not even remotely close. it's not all about offense.

 

for an 8-season period, patrick avg at least 23ppg, 10rpg, 2.2bpg.

cmon guys. i would be happy if yao is any close to patrick. y'all gotta remember, dude's called a "warrior" for a reason.

again, just b/c hakeem is on another level and there's a reason hakeem is regarded that way, he's too damn good. if anyone can be hakeem, there is no point to watch the NBA. hakeem is a once in a generation type of player.

but ewing is also a great player. he was truly a franchise player. he was a guy u can depend on to lead ur teams to the playoffs.

can u say that about yao? can yao lead ANY team to the playoff BY HIMSELF? i can't make that claim yet.

so until we get to watch him after all these training, he has WAYS to go before he can be mentioned w/ those guys.

 

It's a different time in the NBA now. The things the old Knicks could do on defense, you can't do it today. And that JVG Knicks team was a team FULL of warriors. Oakley. Starks. Ewing. Mason. It was a very tough and rough team, perfect for JVG.

Ewing was a very good center but compared to his contemporaries, he wasn't even close to being the best, or the most dominant.

The reason why Yao can handle Ewing is his physicality. Yao is just too big. Guys like Shaq can't stop Yao. How can Ewing? Yao is basically, unstoppable.

Yeah, I know in the playoffs, the Jazz played him great, but it's all relative right? Yao was averaging 25points / 10 rebounds in the playoffs against the Jazz. In the last game 7, I think he scored like 28 points.

So when you say Yao sucked in the playoffs, please, look at the #s. Yao did not suck. He had very good numbers.

Yao in his 5th year would have no problems against a 5th or any year Ewing.

 

u do know u just answered ur own question. ewing played in an era of the best of the best big men.

yao is playing in an era of pathetic big men (centers in general).

do u really expect yao to not foul out playing ewing in a few quarters? yao has not faced anyone close to those type of competition ewing faced in his heyday.

there's a reason ewing is one of the 50's greatest of all tiem playing in an era of some of the best of all time.

name me one center (outside of shaq) that yao is playing with that will be a HOF. hell, will be mentioned to become one.

 

And one more thing, Yao is on track to be a Hall of Fame player. Absolutely.

And when it's all said and done, he will be mentioned among the great centers. Absolutely.

If Yao really explodes from now on, averaging 27/12 for the next 5 years, and win a championship or two, he may even be listed among the top 5 centers of all time.

Top 5.
1> Wilt
2> Hakeem
3> Shaq
4> Kareem or Bill Russel. Bill Russell was great defensively, but not offensively. He had plenty of rings though but he was not a great offensive player. Yao > Russell in offense. Kareem was great offensively, but defensively?

so if Yao averages 27/12 for the next 5 years, and averages 20/9 for the rest of his career, he goes to #5.


Either Kareem or Russell would fall to 6th. Probably Russell.

Look Russell was 6'9 ok? Yao is 7'6. Are yo uteling me that a 6'9 player is better center than 7'6 Yao? Different era. Differnet league.

 

Yao Ming will be in the HOF. no doubt.
Tim Duncan. HOF.
Shaq HOF

Plenty of young centers who will also be in the HOF if they continue their current performance.

Dwight Howard. He looks really good. Unlimited potential. Will be HOF like Yao.
Amare Stoddemire will be HOF like Yao.

 

Put it this way.

Yao Ming is 7'6 310lbs. Just on physicality alone, he is dominating. Not quite as much like Shaq, but almost.

So Yao is almost Shaq in terms of Phsyicality. His size, and strength poses problems.

Yao is almost as skilled offensively as a Kareem Abdul Jabaar.

I keep having to repeat this but offensively, you cannot stop Yao Ming.

Among the top 5, who is taller than Yao Ming? Nobody.
Among the top 5, who is as skilled offensively as Yao Ming? Kareem. Hakeem.

Shaq? He has no skills, man. can't make FTs. He can only dunk. But he gets there due to his physicality. His power.

Anyway, back then, it realy was a different league. Smaller players. Wilt Chamberlain was a giant compared to his contemporaries but he is only 7'1. How would he fare today?

 

ok just stop posting. i thought even the biggest yao fan would be more educated than this.

 

Obviously, Yao is not a HOF player NOW. I'm just saying, that he's on track to become one. And he has the POTENTIAL to be a top 5 all time great.

 

if i based it like it was you, tmac would be the greatest of all time. dude it ain't about the stats. it ain't about the offensive stats. tmac will go down as having one of the best statlines in the history of the NBA, but he ain't nothing right now.

again, yao can have the stats. but can he dominate a game when he struggles? i think everyone on here agrees w/ a resounding no. his D is not game-changing yet. and he still is not a guy where a team fears more than tmac.

when u have a big man and a guard, usually a big man would get all the attention--ala shaq/kobe hell, even shaq got more attention than wade during their run.

again, yao will have good stats. but it's all about winning. and right now, yao has not proven to me he can lead a team.