Yao Ming: Carroll Dawson Knows Me Better As A Coach

A fully healthy Yao Ming v a fully healthy Patrick Ewing? Ewing's not even close, LOL!!!

 

if we had ewing in his 5th year vs yao in his 5th year we win the series vs. utah

 

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| Total | Shooting | Per Game |
+-------------------------------------------------------------------+------------+------------------+
Year Ag Tm Lg | G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS| FG% 3P% FT%| MP TRB AST PTS|
+---------------+---+----+----+----+---+---+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+
1988 25 NYK NBA| 4 153 28 57 0 1 19 22 51 10 6 13 11 17 75| 49 0 86| 38 12.8 2.5 18.8|
1989 26 NYK NBA| 9 340 70 144 0 0 39 52 90 20 9 18 15 35 179| 49 75| 38 10.0 2.2 19.9|
1990 27 NYK NBA| 10 395 114 219 1 2 65 79 105 31 13 20 27 41 294| 52 50 82| 40 10.5 3.1 29.4|
1991 28 NYK NBA| 3 110 18 45 0 0 14 18 30 6 1 5 11 12 50| 40 78| 37 10.0 2.0 16.7|
1992 29 NYK NBA| 12 482 109 239 0 1 54 73 133 27 7 31 23 49 272| 46 0 74| 40 11.1 2.3 22.7|
1993 30 NYK NBA| 15 604 165 322 1 1 51 80 164 36 17 31 39 60 382| 51 100 64| 40 10.9 2.4 25.5|
1994 31 NYK NBA| 25 1032 210 481 4 11 123 163 293 65 32 76 83 94 547| 44 36 75| 41 11.7 2.6 21.9|
1995 32 NYK NBA| 11 399 80 156 1 3 48 70 106 27 6 25 30 51 209| 51 33 69| 36 9.6 2.5 19.0|
1996 33 NYK NBA| 8 328 65 137 1 2 41 63 85 15 1 25 30 22 172| 47 50 65| 41 10.6 1.9 21.5|
1997 34 NYK NBA| 9 357 88 167 0 1 27 42 95 17 3 22 27 30 203| 53 0 64| 40 10.6 1.9 22.6|
1998 35 NYK NBA| 4 132 20 56 0 0 16 27 32 5 3 5 10 16 56| 36 59| 33 8.0 1.3 14.0|
1999 36 NYK NBA| 11 347 58 135 0 0 28 36 96 6 7 8 10 35 144| 43 78| 32 8.7 0.5 13.1|
2000 37 NYK NBA| 14 461 71 170 0 0 62 89 133 6 16 20 27 48 204| 42 70| 33 9.5 0.4 14.6|
2002 39 ORL NBA| 4 68 8 25 0 1 10 17 22 4 1 4 2 12 26| 32 0 59| 17 5.5 1.0 6.5|
+---------------+---+----+----+----+---+---+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+
14 Seasons |139 5208 1104 2353 8 23 597 831 1435 275 122 303 345 522 2813| 47 35 72| 37 10.3 2.0 20.2|



Yao has had better stats than Ewing in the playoffs.

 

Those stats show that Ewing was not exactly a great Post season player.

So far, Yao has better stats. He averaged like 25/10 against Utah, and you guys are complaining that he did poorly.

 

Yao's post season stats.


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| Total | Shooting | Per Game |
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Year Ag Tm Lg | G MP FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA TRB AST STL BLK TO PF PTS| FG% 3P% FT%| MP TRB AST PTS|
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2004 23 HOU NBA| 5 185 31 68 0 0 13 17 37 9 2 7 13 20 75| 46 76| 37 7.4 1.8 15.0|
2005 24 HOU NBA| 7 220 55 84 0 0 40 55 54 5 2 19 19 31 150| 65 73| 31 7.7 0.7 21.4|
2007 26 HOU NBA| 7 261 55 125 0 0 66 75 72 6 1 5 33 27 176| 44 88| 37 10.3 0.9 25.1|
+---------------+---+----+----+----+---+---+----+----+----+----+---+---+---+---+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+----+
3 Seasons | 19 666 141 277 0 0 119 147 163 20 5 31 65 78 401| 51 81| 35 8.6 1.1 21.1|

 

Now, you guys really believe that Patrick Ewing who was 6'10 can beat Yao Ming one on one?

Who has a better low post game? YAO.
Who has better shooting skills? YAO.

I'll take Yao over Pat Ewing over a 1 on 1 contest.

 

Pat Ewing's Playoffs FG % 46%. Points scored? 20.2.

Yao: FG% 51%, Points scored: 21.1.

These are averages.

Now, this past season, Yao BROKE HIS LEG. And he still averaged 25/10.

A healthy Yao > Ewing.

 

Interesting stat:

True Shooting %

2004-05 NBA .614 (9)
NBA .593 (21)
Career .593 (22)


Yao is ranked 22 ALL-TIME for highest True Shooting %.


Name TSP
1 Cedric Maxwell .6294
2 Artis Gilmore .6227
3 Dave Twardzik .6184
4 James Donaldson .6177
5 Adrian Dantley .6166
6 Jeff Ruland .6152
7 Reggie Miller .6139
8 Charles Barkley* .6120
9 Magic Johnson* .6095
10 John Stockton .6081
11 Brent Barry .6062
12 Bobby Jones .6057
13 Darryl Dawkins .6048
14 Kevin McHale* .6045
15 Ed Pinckney .6019
16 Steve Johnson .6002
17 Steve Nash .5983
18 Mario Elie .5982
19 Chris Mullin .5938
20 Kiki Vandeweghe .5937
21 Steve Kerr .5932
22 Yao Ming .5930
23 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* .5924

 

Yao is ranked #20 is career PER!

Name PER
1 Michael Jordan 27.91
2 Shaquille O'Neal 27.63
3 David Robinson 26.18
4 Wilt Chamberlain* 26.12
5 Bob Pettit* 25.33
6 Tim Duncan 25.17
7 Charles Barkley* 24.63
8 Neil Johnston* 24.62
9 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
10 LeBron James 24.24
11 Magic Johnson* 24.11
12 Karl Malone 23.89
13 Tracy McGrady 23.88
14 Dirk Nowitzki 23.84
15 Kevin Garnett 23.84
16 Hakeem Olajuwon 23.59
17 Julius Erving* 23.57
18 Larry Bird* 23.50
19 Kobe Bryant 23.49
20 Yao Ming 23.22
21 Oscar Robertson* 23.17
22 Jerry West* 22.89
23 Elton Brand 22.75
24 Elgin Baylor* 22.69
25 Vince Carter 22.01

 

I don't see Pat Ewing's name on either list.

 

Well, Pat Ewing is on the PER list but lower than Yao. And he's not even in top 100 in True FG %.


#46 in Career PER
46 Patrick Ewing 21.01

 

Here's the link:



http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/TSP_career.html

 

so are u saying tmac is #13 of all time?

cmon now. just stop. yao RIGHT NOW is nowhere near the level of patrick even in his 5th yr in terms of all-around basketball. u need to watch some 90s basketball. those were the days. dream, patrick, MJ, scottie, drexler, barkley, malone, stockton...

 

yao fan, stop bringing up the stats.

ewing is the UNDISPUTED #1 option for the knicks. yao is not for this team.

so if we bring up stats, was tony parker the most dominating player in the finals?

 

I get the feeling someone didn't get to make the jump from
college coach to NBA Asst Coach and blames CD

but then again . . I'm only speculating

Rocket River

 

Hate to tell you this but both Yao and T-Mac are better offensive players than Patrick Ewing. If you know anything about Pat Ewing, he was mainly a defensive player from Georgetown. That was what he was known for. His defense, and rebounding.

Even in the NBA, he was not a great offensive player. He had pretty good #s because he was the #1, but Yao offensively is better, no question. T-Mac and Yao were both better than Pat Ewing.

Who was #2 for the NY Knicks? I think it was John Starks. Come on. That NY Knicks team was not a talented offensive team. They relied on tough defense.

 

Right now, pick among the three players: T-Mac, Yao, or Ewing. Which one do you pick to build your team around?

 

oh my god. a guy that avg 28.6 ppg in a big-men laden era is "just good"???

so jordan avg 30+ b/c he is the #1 option only. kobe avg 32-33 b/c he's #1. they're not that good???

u have got to be kidding me. ewing avg those pts during the reg. season on 50% shooting too, like yao.

and like u said, his defense and rebounding FAR surpass yao.

right now, ewing has a better career than BOTH tmac and yao. tmac if he advances in the playoffs will obviously be regarded better than ewing. tmac will eventually put together 8-9 yrs of basically 25, 5, 5, which is extremely tough.

yao has to put together 7-8 more yrs of 25/10 + to be on ewing's level. so basically yao has to do this until he's 32-33. and then get better on defense too.

its fine that u think yao can be one of the best. but please respect one of the better players to ever play this game. like it or not, ewing is one of the top 50 players of all time. that's elite company.

tmac if he retires right now is prollie one of the top 75 only b/c he has not won. if he does win, he'll be ranked higher.

but yao still has A LONG way to go.

offensively who's the best at their best- easily tmac.
defensively, it's patrick.

yao is not neither the best in any end b/t those 3.

again, if yao can put together 25/10 seasons for 7-8 more yrs, he'll be regarded a lot higher. but u can't predict what can happen 7-8 more yrs. plus yao has to play 70+ games in each of those seasons too/

 

Um. You do realize that two of the years where Ewing had his lowest postseason scoring averages (98 and 99) he had come back from a supposed career ending wrist injury for the former and tore his already damaged ACL for the latter? Oh and he has only played about 100 more playoff games than Yao so far. I think that's a more significant number than Yao's SLIGHTLY (by a point?) higher scoring average over only 20 games.

Just saying. The man was a warrior.

Oh and mentioning his weak supporting cast only makes the man greater; he made the Finals in a maddeningly tough East, took the Rockets to 7 (Knicks scored more in the series in case you forget) in a series where he set an NBA record for blocked shots, and played Jordan tougher than anyone throughout the 90s.

If Yao comes close to supplanting Ewing in terms of greatness and competitive spirit I will be absolutely jumping for joy.

 

Look, Yao's careeer PER #s are better than Ewing's. Yao's Playoff #s are better than Ewing's. Yao plays in an era of zone defenses. Back then, you couldn't play zone, nor could you double. If Ewing was a contemporary of Yao today, Yao would have no problems against Ewing. Yao's 7'6. Ewing is 6'10.

Use your common sense.

I agree that Pat Ewing had a great career although he never won a championship. But those are just statistics. Skill-wise, Ewing was no Hakeem ok? Even Hakeem is amazed at Yao's offensive skills and size. Do you think Hakeem thought that of Ewing?

Ewing is a Hall of fame player. but in my opinon, he would not match up with against Yao Ming.

Whether or not Yao will have the longevity to also produce hall of fame #'s is a question mark, but Yao certainly is headed to the Hall of fame. If he keeps up, he will also produce the #s.