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Yao Ming and T-Mac: Too much risk, not enough reward

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mrjohn, May 10, 2009.

  1. sidewider26

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    will Yao accept a pay cut? i dont know but i hope he will if that is really what you said the whole problem with our team.

    will Rox be the only team who would give Yao a max? you tell me

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  2. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    1. It is not unprecedented in basketball or in other sports. Not even in Houston. Roger CLemens, Nolan Ryan are two examples that come to mind. At the end of the day, you sign these guys to bring home the ring, not to win games in November.

    2. Every year he has come back from injury, he has established himself as the premier big man and has made a full recovery.


    Stress fractures can be prevented by preventing over use. that means Yao only has a certain number of practice minutes or use in him, before he needs rest to heal. It's a fact we can clearly see now. What are you going to do otherwise? Repeating the same mistakes will not work.
     
  3. durvasa

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    My understanding is that a stress fracture can be caused by a jump in physical activity. If Yao's body gets accustomed to playing 30 minutes a game, and suddenly you want him to play 35+ minutes a game, he's still injury prone. Actually, this is sort of what happened this year. He's averaged fewer minutes per game than he has since his 3rd year, and the past few weeks he's been regularly playing 40 minute games.
     
  4. steefrancis

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    How bout trade Tmac for Davis and either Camby/Kaman

    the rockets will not trade yao i think we all should just accept that idea...i dont see it happening

    then with 3 point guards we flip brooks/Landry and filler to GS where they might thrive and have the warriors interested and get Maggette

    resign ron ron

    Baron Davis/Lowry
    Maggette
    Ron Artest/Battier
    Scolandry
    Yao/Kaman

    I think thats a sold well rounded team...alot of clippers but still...
     
  5. bingsha10

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    You need a star to be sure.

    But as I recall the main reason the rockets sucked during the Stevie Franchise years was giving huge and horrible contracts to below average scrubs.

    That isn't happening anymore.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Stress factures aren't caused by an increase in physical activity, that's usually the final straw that breaks the the camel's back so to speak.

    The mechanical weakness has been developing for years...the stress that is. Prevention is to strengthen the bone with excercises that stimulate blood flow and strengthening....and limiting the impact which weakens the area.

    I thought they had the medical scanners to identify worrisome stressful areas now? I am surprised the med staff didn't see this coming.
     
  7. abc2007

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    Just found out, most of clutchfans are idealists!

    Without Yao and Tmac, the rockets would be a lottery team.

    Some fans dream to sign a big name in 2010. That's not going to happen.

    If the rockets want to rebuild, they would be a lottery team for at least 5 years.
     
  8. abc2007

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    btw, the OP's "Too much risk, not enough reward" is a false argument.

    First of all, with Yao and Tmac, Les earns a lot of money.

    Second, the rockets are a top ten team among 30 nba teams for years. But, the rockets haven't paid lux tax.

    Third, ...
     
  9. zhao1109

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    Houston should keep YAO. YAO lead this team to 53 wins and to second round playoff. If he were 100% healthy, we would win game 3 with lakers, but you can early tell he was having problem in the third...

    Use YAO more wisely, limit his minutes to 32-33 mins with 65-70 games in regular seaon. Find a good backup center. Use YAO like Spurs's TD. Get him more rest in late March/Early April. He will be a beast on the playoff...
     
  10. t_mac1

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    i rather want to rebuild, come back in 5 years, and have a legit shot a championship.

    btw - morey will never allow us to be a lottery team ;)
     
  11. abc2007

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    Fixed! ;)

     
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    dumbest post ever. how much money has been brought by yao?
     
  13. mrjohn

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    The reward in this case is Winning or Competing for the championship...not the money they earn les, as the original post stated. My point is that these guys are so prone to injury they do not put us in position to win. In an ideal sports organization the GM and owner have the same goal: winning not profits.
     
  14. YallMean

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    Can we win at least one title with Yao?
    I think we can. Keeping Yao is a better option than blowing up this team and start to rebuild. You rebuild because you don't have other choices. Two things need to happen for a rebuilding team to be successful 1) get lucky in the draft 2) enough time so your you puppy talents don't quit on you. How many teams are a success rebuilt team recently. I don't call Orlando a success just yet and Lebron or Wade comes along once every 25 years. Not an attractive option.
     
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    There's this team called the Boston Celtics that had a second tier star and then traded for another second tier star and another pretty good player and then they went out and won an NBA Championship. And that was last year...

    Trading Yao for a couple of very good players and adding them to this team could very easily make the Rocks a championship team.
     
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    Yeah there is too much injury to pay these all stars who get hurt a whole lot of time. But that's how the NBA goes sometimes. The reward is selling seats at the toyota center and winning a championship.
     
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    You only rebuild when your superstar/best player on your team ages and is no longer able to produce. Yao is still able to produce despite never being 100%, Tracy is still able to produce despite never being a 100%.

    We just need to give this one more year. The guy I would rather have leave is Tracy though, obviously because a big man is more important on both ends than a wing player on one end.
     
  18. dexkk

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    Easier said than done. When you come back in 5 years, you'll have different problems and different reasons why we won't win a championship. Every team wants to win a championship but the reality is... it's just not that simple. You could have all the right pieces but still fail.

    By the way, if we were to rebuild, it will take longer than 5 years before we have a shot again.
     
  19. HTR99

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    If he's looking to win, I don't see why not. Take SA for instance, Duncan had a chance to cash in big after winning the championship, can't remember if #3 or 4 but he decided he didn't want max as long as they were able to add talent around him. As much as I hate the Spurs, that was a big move for their franchise because he was giving the team flexibility to add some guys plus he had a chance to be selfish but preferred winning rings. Unlike KG who demanded a contract extension before being traded to the Celtics and before winning last year. Different personalities but I see Yao thinking more like Duncan and hopefully take a bit less to help us win.

    Yao will never be traded, he's a cash cow for the Rockets.
     
  20. WALAWALA

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    Rocket did tanked a season to get "the Dream" But it still take another 10 years to win the champion. And it even take Jordan 7 years.

    I wonder if "modern day fans" have that kind of patient.
     

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