Yao: "I think that's my worst game in my three years."

He isn't a liability,Yao dominated the masters of junk defense,mitch match basketball. When you get 36 points 19 rebounds against a team like don nelson's golden state warriors, I think you have solved the probelms of any mis-matches.

 

I am not a Yao Only Fan. I am a Aaron Brooks only fan.

But you know what? I think Yao > T-Mac because this season, I've become disgusted by T-Mac's lazy eyed bum, stinking up the season like a pile of horse dung. Yao's the one who's shown real leadership, and leading this team to unite as one. It was a beautiful thing to watch.

So yeah, I like Yao more than T-****. T-**** needs to be traded in the off-season if the Rockets don't get past the first round. And you know what? He wil lbe traded. Management ain't happy with T-****. Fans are not happy with T-**** Except for the brainless T-**** fans.

The Rockets do not need T-Mac like they did last season. This team has enough talent around Yao to succeed. Trading T-**** and his 20 million salary can net us really good role players.

 

That's what really kills me about posters that are clearly yao fans. I've seen yao play some terrible games. I'm not going to crush yao because he didn't score a lot, it bothers me that at times when he's not scoring he's a non factor.

Great players contribute when they're not scoring. 5 rebs is un acceptable for ur all star big man. Don't get it twisteðjefferson is a very good player. He is in the mold of boozer,brand. My problem is just being ineffective at both ends.

To top it off, yof brought up mcgrady in this thread that didn't have anything to do with it. I still don't understand how people criticize him when he's not even suppose to be in it.

 

Uh...different game.

Yao is a liability when the other team isolates him on the high pick and roll, which Minnesota did....exclusively last night.

It is the same way the Jazz beat the Rockets with Boozer and Williams.

Rick Adelman needs to help Yao with a weakside zone when other teams try this.

DD

 

When Yao decides to play those teams aggressive he will be successful. The probelm is he always ends up in the high post shooting fadeaways against those smaller,stronger, and quicker opponents. He ends up turning the ball over a lot and resorts to shooting fadeaways because hes not quick enough to blow pass the opponent. He needs to establish better position or get a point guard like Jason Kidd who can get him the ball at the right spots.

 

Did you watch the game last night? Rockets lose without McGrady.

 

Yes, last night, T-Mac was great. But to say that the Rockets lose last night without T-Mac is a stretch. That's like trying to forecast the future.

If T-Mac was not playing last night, a billion different variables come into play. How Adelman uses Yao. etc.

On Jan 11th, the Rockets WITHOUT T-Mac beat this very same team by a HUGE margin.

Houston 113, Minnesota 82

In that game, Yao only scored 15 points.


L. Head G 33:10 6-13 1-2 2-2 +22 0 3 2 2 1 2 0 2 15
R. Alston G 30:33 4-10 1-3 2-2 +27 0 3 5 3 2 1 1 1 11
Y. Ming C 27:47 6-8 0-0 3-5 +22 2 4 1 1 0 2 0 2 15
S. Battier F 29:05 4-5 2-2 0-0 +23 1 9 3 1 4 2 0 1 10
C. Hayes F 19:18 2-6 0-0 0-0 +4 2 8 1 0 0 1 3 2 4
L. Scola 24:20 7-10 0-0 8-12 +23 2 9 5 1 1 0 0 1 22
A. Brooks 21:27 2-6 0-2 1-2 +10 0 3 4 4 1 0 0 1 5
M. James 21:04 2-10 1-3 0-0 +15 0 1 3 1 0 0 1 1 5
C. Landry 20:12 7-7 0-0 1-1 +9 6 11 0 0 0 0 0 1 15
S. Novak 8:10 3-6 3-5 0-0 -2 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 9
K. Snyder 4:51 1-1 0-0 0-0 +2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 2

SIX ROCKET PLAYERS scored double figures that night.

And the victory margin was THIRTY ONE POINTS!!

So you tell me, which is a better OFFENSE?

A T-Mac oriented offense in which they BARELY won last night? Or a TEAM Offense in which SIX GUYS SCORED 10+ points.

I think the answer is obvious. T-Mac hogging the balls HURTS this offense.

 

Different team,T-mac didn't play in that golden state game and Yao dominated enough for his liabilty to not even be a factor. Baron davis ran pick and roll against yao with harrington on many posessions we just had terrific rotation defensively and Yao dominated.


When T-mac comes back Yao doesn't dominant utah,indiana,minnesota and as a result his liability is visible.

 

really tho

 

Man Yao is really picky about entry passes It's his 6th season in this league and we're still fighting over it.

 

maybe he's taking it easy because its chinese new year

 

Everyone here acts as if the analysis is only one-sided...YOF, TOF, or whatever the heck you are, it doesn't really matter...the truth of the matter is that the T'Wolves are playing a lot better than they were when we originally played them (yes, this is a factor you need to consider). Yes, it's possible that the rockets would've won yesterday without Tmac and it's possible that Yao was tired or whatever. The point of it all is that we aren't going to win without everyone contributing. We had 5 people in double figures last night and that's what we want...and the W of course.

FOR ONCE, lets give all our players a break. Lets stop with this pessimism...I'm so tired of reading this garbage with YOFs and TOFs. I'm not going to resort to name calling but a lot of you are acting very pessimistically and believe that the couple of games you have watched are the defining factor for the Rockets team. There are going to be days where either Yao or Tmac struggles or both... its bound to happen... so lets just learn to live with it and see what happens

 

It's not a defining factor for the team Crudder....we all just want one thing and that is cohesiveness and chemistry.....I think there are YOFS and TOFS on the Rockets team. Have you noticed that some players play harder when one star is on the floor.....

YOFS of the Rockets Squad
Rafer numbers are better when Yao is on the floor...
Luther numbers are better when Yao is on the floor
Aaron Brooks numbers are better when Yao is on the floor

TOFS of the Rockets squad
Chuck Hayes plays better when TMac is on the floor
Scola plays better when TMac is on the floor
Shane Battier plays better when TMac is on the floor

Tweeners
Carl Landry plays well with both
Bonzi is so horribly inconsistent
Mike James is inconclusive
Steve Novak is inconclusive

 

They played inside out? I thought they played motion offense and now TMac is sucking the life out of that? Make up your mind YOFs! Inside out, that would be Gundy ball! Real ROCKETS FANS WONT CARE WHAT WE DO AS LONG AS WE WIN! Only YOFs and TOFs would care about how many shots Yao got and rate a win based on that. If Yao took more shots when TMac was out and we lost more games, screw that! I would take the current 8-1 since Mac came back over the 8-5 when he was hurt!

 

HUH?! Yao's best offensive season was last year and he was dominant last year! TMac was with him then! Stop talking out of your behind after just few games. Yao is in a mini funk, thats all there is to it. Stop spouting propaganda against TMac based on ZERO facts!

 

Yao has been playing better all around overall this season, he is a rare 20 10 guy in this league and player of the month in january which wasn't just a few games.

 

yes he has played better this year, more mins, better rebounding, better hands etc. sure, but he is in a mini slump last three games. Last two games he kept missing shots, even FTs! But that happens, its called a mini slump. He will bounce back soon enough, but to blame TMac for this is a joke. Its been 9 games since TMac came back with 8-1 record, Yao's over all these games haven't played bad at all. You are just looking at the past 3 games.

 

Im happy we are winning but you have to realize that last year and the year before that we were bounced out of the playoffs in the first round....everyone is critical because although we are winnung, we are not winning easy like the other teams ahead of us...Winning now is fine but winning later would be gravy

 

sigh we lost the last two playoff series against great teams in game 7 basically playing 4 v 5 (Bowen and Hayes) with crappy role players. This year Yao has improved a lot (his minutes, his rebounding, his ball catching etc.) and we have much much better role players, so why are you assuming everything has remained the same from last year?

 

Your YOF/TOF list is very flawed.

I don't think there are ANY YOF/TOF on the Rockets team. If there really are, then this team is in TROUBLE. Those are CANCER players, and need to be removed.

Yao is not a YOF. He's the most generous, unselfish super star player on the team. Rafer Alston has stated this several times, how Yao, for a superstar is unfailingly unselfish.

Let's examine the CORE reason why the Rocket players seem to "stand around and watch" T-Mac.

This is very different from how they behaved when T-Mac was out. Back then, players would be cutting, and driving to the hoop, wiating for a dish from Yao. How many times have we seen this? Double teamed Yao passed to a cutting player who scores easy.

Why are they moving and cutting? BECAUSE THEY KNOW YAO WILL PASS.

Now, why are the players with T-Mac NOT moving, NOT cutting?

Because THEY KNOW T-MAC WON'T PASS, AND INSTEAD SHOOT IT UP FOR A 3 OR A JUMP SHOT. They know this, so they don't move.

If you played with a super star who frequently holds the ball, and does ISO and then shoots, would you be cutting? Would you be moving around trying to drive to the basket? HELL NO.

However, if you played wtih a superstar who DOES pass and LOOKS to pass to a cutting player, YOU ARE GOING TO CUT AND MOVE!!

It's that simple.

No bs excuses that players stand around in AWE of T-Mac. Give me a break. That is the public politcially correct excuse. The REAL reason is, they know T-Mac more often than not, jacks up a shot when he has a ball. Yao on the other hand, they know, WILL PASS and WILL LOOK TO PASS.