Well, no need to cry over split milk. Whether Yao Ming put up his elbow or not, it does not really matter. When the fre@king referees gave such an explanation, there is nothing Big Yao can do. What a ridiculous explanation. The arm, the hand it does not matter, as they are the same with the ball...... So it is not a foul when Chandler slapped and hacked Big Yao either on the arm, the hand or the ball, it is the same....it is a no foul; it is a TURNOVER on Big Yao's part.
We are talking about 2 different things here. 1. Yao does have Turnover problems by not doing a good job of portecting the ball. 2. Yao got fouled a lot yesterday leading to some unwarranted turnovers. Someone needs to start pointing out to David Stern the BS way that Yao is treated. 2 hands in the back, leaned on pushed on constantly uprooted....the guy gets hammered...... And being 7'6" he does not have the leverage to really push back without getting called for an offensive foul. Basically Yao gets screwed and needs to call out the refs publicly. DD
I missed what happened on that first of his final two turnovers, but that last one didn't look like a foul to me. From the one replay I saw, it looked like Chandler got ball and hand. The defender is allowed to make contact with the hand if the hand is on the ball. It's the same strip move Chuck routinely uses. Yao needs to be more careful with the ball, period. His turnovers this year are unacceptably high. It may not be all his fault, but he can't control how the refs are going to officiate contact. There are things he can do to protect the ball better, which have been mentioned. He needs to clean up his footwork. He shouldn't expose the ball. At least Yao himself recognizes that he needs to do better, which is kind of refreshing. Most stars will only look to blame the refs.
post of the decade. Please forward this to Clutch/Yao/The front office. Yao has to do something to get some ref fired to stop the BS.
Looked like Chandler hit him in the chest with his arm - that was the foul, then he smacked the ball after that which looked clean. The foul was before hand....but the actually swipe was clean in my opinion. Again, I just say this: Yao is going to get hit, I'd like him to protect the ball, go with power and bull his way through despite getting hit. Yao can't depend on the refs...to get to the next level, which would really make him a superstar and potentially one of the great centers, he has to do that. That's the difference between being a very good center and a legendary one.
Yao needs to be clear and let the ref know. The hand, when it is on the ball, is part of the ball. It is not a foul if they slap his hand then. The arm, starting from the wrist and up is not part of the hand. Slapping the arm is a foul.
Hahaha. Some refs deserve some punishment. They should be fined for some too obvious bad calls, like those fouls called on Yao when Yao was simply standing and someone (David, DH) hit Yao from BEHIND! Or when DH throw Yao down and Yao was called a foul.
Some posters here basically think if a girl dresses attractive, it's perfectly acceptable to rape her repetitively until she learns to cover herself from head to toes and carry a gun.
I also think the way Yao holds the ball has something to do with shooting touch. Holding the othe way might hurt his shooting tough. But on holding the ball tight, I once met a guy who hold the ball and extended his arms to me, just asked me to slap the ball. No matter how hard I hit the ball, he still hold it tightly. I was not hitting his arms, though. On one part, Yao has to protect the ball better, because even with a fair ref, sometime they are going to make mistakes and not call for some fouls. On the other part, I am wondering what can be done to make those BS refs being punished for their obvious bad calls.
The problem is, Shaq were rarely called offensive foul when he just knocked defenders down with his shoulders. I mean, when Shap was in his prime. Now for Yao, he got called quite often on his agressive moves, and he was not getting calls for a lot of obvious fouls against him.
After checking the replay from R2K, I think you are right. Chandler's arm was all over Yao before the swipe, and there was a lot of contact on Yao's arm too. If you look at the previous play when Yao did make the shot, Chandler fouled in a similar way, and Yao's left armed was punched by Chandler, but still no foul. The refs just tolerated Chandler's contact with Yao's arm, and Chandler took the advantage. BTW, Luther didn't foul Butler at the subsequent layup, actually he didn't even jump as high as Butler to reach the ball. During that situation, Luther should just stand by because he had no chance to block Butler without fouling him. Sadly, he jumped and gave the stupid refs a chance to call a foul. Ok, back to the topic. The swipe itself was on the ball, thus rather clean. I know Yao should protect the ball better, blah blah, but on that specific play, there was nothing Yao could do if Chandler was allowed to put his arm all over Yao. Like you said, Yao is going to get hit, actually Yao was hit many times without going to the FT line, so he has gone through those uncalled contact a lot, and he didn't depend on the refs in those plays. I don't agree with those who said Yao should hold the ball tight, or use arms to protect the ball. There is no way to prevent your defender to cross your arms and swipe the ball away from you if they are not punished by the refs. Yao and Adelman should really let the refs know every time the illegal contact happened, and hope that sooner or later they would call one foul or another. What Yao could improve, in my opinion, is to limit his dribbling and use his body to cover the ball. In that particular play, the ball was exposed totally in front of Chandler, thus could be swiped away. He did better in the first three quarters and didn't dribble a lot.
this crap happens every year over and over again. I don't think it's just on Yao.. it's on all the bigs. It's a guard crazy league and I am sure Stern wants it that way. Way more superstars = more $$$ for the NBA You guys have to realize that Stern isn't going to do a damn thing. if I was Yao.. I would go all Deke on em. He shouldn't have to raise his elbows much to reach head level of most guards. F'em
Some of the attitude in this thread is what exact prevents Yao from being truly great among the greats. Yao wants to be officiated more fairly? Do something, protect better, swing elbows, hit somebody, go ballistic on referees, whatever, I don't care. Just do enough to win. Just play the game means you do everything within the rules, written or unwritten, to win.
man im sick of this crap. someone needs to slap that idiot stern and tell him to either do somethin about this foul crap or get new refs who dont chage the outcomes of games for the money .
