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Yao Fouls Like Maddox/Glavine Strike Zone

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Jeff, Mar 25, 2007.

  1. Fuse

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    No, he doesn't need to dribble the ball at all. He just needs to post, then repost to get deeper position, then catch and shoot the ball. Its really as simple as that. He did that a few times against the Pistons, and he almost got And 1s on a few separate occasions.

    I really don't know what's gotten into him, but its really frustrating to watch. I have said this all along even when we were winning. I'm telling you, the reluctance to take the ball to the hole is what is going to be our achilles heel... especially when nothing is falling like tonight. There were numerous occasions tonight if we got to the charity stripe we could of stopped the Hornet's momentum.
     
  2. Darrinlane

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    I love seeing Yao shooting jumpshots at the end of games. Thats one of his strengths. He's our best mid/close range jump shooter other than Howard. He's not Tracy. If he puts the ball on the floor to make a move to the hoop he gets it stolen. He is not Hakeem fast. Hell..Hakeem turned the ball over a lot when he put it down.
     
  3. rofflesaurus

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    if he takes the ball to the hoop he gets it stolen. a 7 fter shouldnt driving to the basket. if i was yao i'd watch tapes of shaq and see how he got post positioning for easier shots.
     
  4. johnrox

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    the thinking is if you're 7"6 you should be dunking 20 times per game. yao is taller than shaq, therefore we should be seeing yao dunk more than shaq because god knows we see shaq dunking every game on espn :rolleyes:
     
  5. Fuse

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    You know... What rofflesaurus was actually right.
     
  6. Fuse

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    I meant to say "said"

    Yao shouldn't be dribbling. The distance between his hands and the ground is too high, which makes him very vulnerable when help defense comes along for the steal.
     
  7. Tfor3

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    My neighbor says its b/c Yao is Chineese and the refs are not.
     
  8. v3.0

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    is your neighbor pryuen?
     
  9. bchapman101

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    That is all true. However, Yao, as incredible as he is, still needs to be more assertive and aggressive and move quickly, decisively, and with reckless abandon towards the basket more often. When he gets fouled he needs to bull through it and make the shot anyways more often like Shaq (I am NOT a Shaq fan). Yao is too big and strong to get so easily derailed so often. Alot of times he takes too long to make his move. He is my 2nd favorite player of all time after Hakeem and is by far the best center in the NBA but he is lacking this one thing. He needs to be more of a monster to go along with his sweet touch. That combination would eventually put him among the greatest to ever play.
     
  10. Texas Stoke

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    Lets call it like we saw it, 3 black officials and you had to know Yao Ming was in trouble. Lets call it like it was. That was the worst it's ever been for him. It was a disgrace.
     
  11. tiger0330

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    Better get used to it. Thats how the playoffs are going to be called. The officials are going to let the players play, minor contact calls inside are not going to be called. There should be not problem with that if the refs call it the same way for both teams.
     
  12. tiger0330

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    This is true. I wrote a post in a game against Milwaukee early in the season where he did exactly what you're talking about. As a matter of fact Yao had done this for a few games in row; that is receiving the ball too far out from the basket and instead of reposting, his first move was to take that turnaround jump shot. I think within the next week he got more aggressive and was mixing up that jump shot with reposts and driving to the basket.

    Don't know why Yao did this early on in the season but his injury and conditioning must have something to do with it now. It takes a good deal of energy to repost and push a defender deeper into the paint. You are right it will be our achilles heel in the playoffs if Yao doesn't correct this, my concern is the number of games left, are 12 games left enough for him to get back into pre-injury form.
     
  13. xiki

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    If Yao were someone other than Yao he might challenge the (IMHO) unbalanced reffing in a post game news conference, creating national awareness on ESPN (is there any other sports media outlet remaining nationally???), focus the attention of Stu (The Tru Worthless, the proverbial those who can DO those who cannot get league jobs) Jax and int'l mktg whiz Dean Stern (sorry, Cubes), pay my fine - and hope for/anticipate better results.

    Let the squeaky wheel get the calls - and not greased again and again.
     
  14. Fuse

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    Even w/o being back to his best, he should learn how to draw fouls when things aren't working for him - like using that pump fake that he has, which is in many ways similar to what T-mac does, and it works almost every time.
     
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    As long as Yao is getting by with his moving screens, we can't complain too much about the no-calls on the interior. Now if the refs start calling his moving screens, then let them have it.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    This is SOOOO true......I know JVG called it out in the playoffs, but man someone needs to step up.

    Yao said something earlier this year and magically the fouls started to get called.

    Yao needs to say something again.

    But in the game, JVG should rant and rave and get a technical to call attention to it.



    DD
     
  17. Sishir Chang

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    It seems like Yao doesn't get as many calls as he should and as Rox fans we're a lot more sensitive to when Rox players aren't getting calls but do y'all really think this is racial?

    Before we go around accusing refs of racism I would like to seem some more statistics to back that up.
     
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    Im not saying Yao needs to dribble the ball from the top of the key...

    he should be close enough to the basket... to make a 2 or 3 step move though...


    what I am saying... is... Yao needs to send a message to the Ref's

    "If you don't call a foul... im going to take it into my own... hands.. and not only might someone get hurt... but there could be a fight, or a bench clearing brawl...."

    Yao needs to send a message to his defenders...

    "if you get in my face...you are going to be feeling the bruises the next day...
    and maybe more"
     
  19. xiki

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    If only...
     
  20. Almu

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    Doesn't' matter what is said, centers like Shaq and Yao are way too big not to get hit on every play.

    Shaq can make a case that in his prime, he would of averaged 50pts per game. He can easily go to the line 30 times a game minimum. And if Yao gets the calls he should on every play, he can get 50 per also.

    Won't happen, though.
     

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