Right, it's the Western media's fault that China hangs murals of mass murderers where they stage Olympic photo ops. That's exactly our politics to be brainwashed by gigantic paintings of political leaders. I mean we have those big FDR murals in San Francisco and the famous JFK paintings in Chicago. It's all an attempt to intimidate the world's cold warriors. Fear our big paintings!
There are more sophisticated ways to get the citizens under political influence than gigantic paintings of political leaders... and we have many of those in the western world.
The printing of money seems to be a pretty universal and effective way of influence. I don't understand why recently every Yao thread has to turn into a D&D discussion. We'll I do, but I wish there would be a truce until the Olympics are finished.
again, the definition of "mass murderer" is from your politics, it is a product for tools. It could well be another lie like many that your presidents told you. You just follow what your media told you, do you have any real knowledge on this "mass murderer" thing other than two words or a fantasy number? Mao's painting is shown for our Chinese. and we respect him, not his politics. that painting is right there in tiananmen square. Chinese walk by the painting everyday. The western reporter chose to put Yao under Mao, the western reporter chose to play politics and you Americans blame China? what a bunch of fags full of bull****. here is what you need to do: shut up on China, get back from Iraq, get disturbed by your own "mass murderer" in Bush.
It's like telling the Jews to stop hating on the Nazi and that they shouldn't still live in the Holocaust mentality. I agree that he shouldn't have brought politics into this thread. But for those who jeer at his anger about the past don't know what they are talking about.
Hitler was interested in making Germany strong after WWI, just as Mao was interested in making China strong after the fall of the Qing. His main motivation was nationalism, the idea of exterminating or deporting undesirables certainly wasn't something he invented.. lookin at the previous century Americans deported blacks to Liberia, and in the present day look at the Occupied territories where Jewish settlers move in and displace Palestinians. If you're talking straight up killing, Mao was directly responsible for many more deaths than Hitler. If you're going to call Hitler that epithet than you can apply it on Mao as well we dont use giant paintings but every country has go-to symbols. we use the flag. disrespect the flag and we lose our minds. other people might think it's pretty damn twisted to have our children put their hands over their hearts and swear alliance to processed cotton and thread but there you go. it's like arabs with Muhammad. we think it's r****ded to get up in arms about cartoons of him but others might think it's r****ded for Americans to call in death threats when someone burns a piece of cloth. every system is backed by some sort of idolatry Mao is the go-to symbol in China because he's what legitimizes the Communist leadership. Makes sense they use huge pictures and statues of him like we use the flag and the constitution
Fun fact: It was comrade Salvador allende who first recognized the motherland of china in america. The chinese comrades gave food and other supplies to the poor who fought for justice in El Salvador. And unlike the soviet comrades, their social workers did not try to convince the people that god did not exist. God bless Archbishop romero, god bless china, God bless the BBS.
I like that you mentioned Liberia. One of my favorite rare Michael Jackson songs was Liberian girl. I also liked that Tupac used that song in his song Letter to my Unborn child, another incredible song that doesn't get that much airplay. Its not Yao's fault there's a gigantic Mao face there. for aesthetics, they could have something nicer like a dragon or a bird. Maybe a statue of Mao would have been ok, but to have a giant poster like that, its kinda tacky.
People are so quick to hate things they don't understand, it's a two way street. If people would take time to educate yourself and understand where both side are coming from, things could be easier. But if we just listen to the news and media, close our eyes, believe what where told and never ASK HARD QUESTIONS, ignorance breeds. These people spew out half truths, that they believe are the truth.
It's awesome to see Yao so revered and with such pride. He is a great role model, for the chinese, for americans, so can we get over who knows the most about which leader committed the most atrocities? One one hand, I think it's not only fair but obvious that such an image (whether taken by western photographers or not) would incite discussions on chinese history (isn't that a GOOD thing, perhaps without the hatred about things none of us saw first hand).... don't think the US doesn't get it's fair share of "hate". On the other hand, eeeeasy there people, make the switch to decaf and be proud that Yao plays on our team and recognize it's just a photograph. Good for him. And as someone else said, glad he didn't hurt his foot.
Oh, please... what utter BS. Here's my post from D&D (where this discussion belongs) on the subject: Who cares? I think it's a trip. Nothing could better illustrate the dichotomy of the Chinese and American systems than a Chinese NBA multimillionaire running with an Olympic torch in front of a gigantic poster of a murderous Chinese dictator. Groovy! Now don't you think this is something better discussed in D&D, where the monkeys roam, flinging poo left, right, and center??
As far as matters related to China is concerned, wikipedia is very much biased. The reasons are: 1. wikipedia is free-content encyclopedia on the Internet 2. China blocks wikipedia That means no views from inside China have been reflected on wikipedia articles. Wikipedia represents only the views of people outside China, including Chinese in Hong Kong, Taiwan, and overseas. Unfortunately, it is the people inside China who know better about what has happened in China in the past, not the people outside.
Not necessary. A lot of people currently outside of China FLED (or their parents did) during Mao's rule. The majority of people who use the internet in China now had not been born when Mao died. And it's not like China's education and news media are so very unbiased about political matters.
