yao ankle sprain

Oops it was Clutch not Bob.

Denniscd don’t listen to Clutch, let Yao Ming fanboys armed with semi-automatic rolleye graphics chase you from the board. PLEASE!!!!


I dont know how we will survive without all of denniscd's insightfull deep inside info.

 

didnt see it like that at all from my perspective. For me it was more of a concern about how often yao is having trouble with his feet. toe nails, ankle sprains. Hey he has big feet, they will be prone to injury. this is just the a fact u have to deal with yao. I have no problem with yao playing for the national team. its admireable

 

What a great idea! Let's tank the season less than 1 game into it for an inknown commodity! Not smart.

 

maybe this is the reason we try to prove there is no business with Yao's national team teammates, you cannt associate this with politics

 

Oh the sweet joy of the offended. First off: what is offense? Wiktionary says it is "The state of being offended or displeased; anger; displeasure." When Google is asked to define offense, it returns several different terms; the most interesting to me actually fell under the heading of umbrage: "a feeling of anger caused by being offended; 'he took offence at my question.'" Dictionary.com calls offense "The act of causing anger, resentment, displeasure, or affront, or a violation or infraction of a moral or social code; a transgression or sin." Of all these, I think the last is closest to the way we use it. When someone proclaims that they have been offended, it is generally because someone else has expressed disrespect towards something they feel very strongly about, usually some sort of self-identification. Be that self-identification political, religious, cultural, sexual, or race the subjective gut feeling is presumably the same.

The state of being offended is arguably one of the most pertinent emotions in modern life. What love and hedonism were to 1965-1975, and what greed was to the 80s, offence has been to the last 15 years. Its progeny is legion: hate speech laws, calls for cable and video game censorship, Super Bowl nipple freakouts, defence of marriage amendments, hair-trigger harassment codes in schools and workplaces, the War on Christmas, God or the lack thereof in the Pledge of Allegiance, hyphenation of ethnic groups--the list goes on and on. Even terrorism is driven by offence; American troops stationed in Iraq offended Osama bin Ladin so deeply that he founded al Qaeda to oppose it. Offences like the head scarf ban in France and the US occupation of Iraq add fuel to the fire.

So far I have said nothing out of the ordinary. Human beings have been willing to kill and even die for the ideas they feel strongly about for thousands of years; my earlier statement about umbrage being the defining emotion of the last 15 years does not deny that offence has pretty much always been around. However, whether it is new, stronger, or merely more obvious than before, I propose that there is a new trend in the history of offense.

People are starting to enjoy it.

I may not agree with every cause of the left, but taken as a whole, I am definitely a liberal. However, I often watch Fox News. Why? For the righteous anger, of course; the sweet joy of offence. I love to watch Hannity and Colms or the O'Reilly Show, all the while yelling at my TV. Part of it may be the smug sense of superiority, but there's more to it than that--I find myself thinking "omg how could he have the balls to actually say that" much more often than "lol he's so dum and I'm so smart." D&D itself is driven by much the same urge; witness the tendency (of which I, too, am guilty) to scan a thread for the one statement one adamantly disagrees with, then use it as a base for a 2-3 paragraph rant.

It is common to talk about the Christian persecution complex, but I think to call it such is to sorta miss the point. Almost no Christians actually fear personal persecution because of their status as Christians. I say that what we have dubbed a "persecution complex" is actually a large segment of America binging on umbrage. Though they say they seek to end the things that offend them, and probably believe themselves when they do, I think that deep down they love every moment of their righteous anger.

The current ethical and political climate tends to treat the offended as victims. However, is there any reason to, particularly if it truly is something people enjoy enough to seek out purposefully? Personally, I tend to feel a smidge guilty after my indignation benders; could one make a case that offence is wrong, as least so far as an internal state can be said so? Or is my whole attitude towards the offended merely symptomatic of someone who frequents a website responsible for gems like "your poison womb is making heaven crowded"?

 

But I can associate his comment with sarcasm

 

Pryuen, you're not God. the truth is you don't know what actually happened. is it entirely impossible say Liu Wei travelled back to Shanghai by himself before the entire squad returned? you didn't know Yao went back to China privately for 3 days before his formal return the media reported until later revealed by Yang Yi, did you? you screwed up, accept it and move on.

 

So how does denniscd get more credibility? I fail to understand how many extremely inflammatory anti-CD posts gets denniscd the reputation of being an insider. Until now, the only "scoops" denniscd has given us are his own vitriol against CD. This is really the first scoop he's gotten, and it has not been verified, while pryuen has directly contradicting information regarding the circumstances.

 

Well, I think Pruyen's rebuttal to denniscd's post does raise legitimate questions about the veracity of denniscd's information.

If denniscd had made the comment: "Yao sprained his ankle in a workout yesterday"... I doubt anyone would have gotten worked up. The assumptions we all would have made was that it was in the course of his personal workout or in training with CD or in training with his trainer.

But denniscd went further. He specified that the sprain was caused in a workout WITH a national team mate.

Again, ordinarily, it would not raise any suspicions. However, the fact that pruyen has managed to provide evidence to the contrary that the national team was not in China at the moment of the injury raises doubts about denniscd's information.

In short, unless denniscd can provide evidence to prove that the national team (or national team mate) was in China working out with Yao at the time of the sprain, the chain of evidence (in legal terms) has been broken.

A simple analogy is this. I make the statement: A hurt his hand when he got into a fight with B. Now, A may have very well hurt his hand. Let's assume he did. But if someone comes out with evidence to the contrary that B was nowhere near A at a reasonable point in time when he hurt his hand, I then have to bring up evidence that B was with A, got into a fight with A, and that A hurt his hand in the fight. Failure to provide that evidence means my statement is nearly entirely wrong. Refusal to provide that evidence further undermines my credibility. And ultimately, A gets off scot free.

If denniscd can provide evidence to back up his statement IN ITS ENTIRETY, then there is no reason to doubt him at all. Further, his credibility as an insider would rise dramatically.

Pruyen, with the greatest of respect to you, I think there could be more diplomatic ways of questioning other people's information. They say that the colour red does have the tendency to anger people I am not questioning your credibility and your dedication to Yao and the Rockets. All I am just saying is that there are ways of avoiding backlashes and raising controversy in a forum populated with people of many different minds and natures.

I hope I did not offend anyone with this rambling. It was done in the best of spirits and with the best of intentions.

 

Of course, I'm not God who knows everything......

But it's just impossible that Liu Wei or any other national team members travelled back to Shanghai before the entire squad returned. As a matter of fact, before I responded to Denniscd, I did purposedly checked on the Internet to search for any update of Yao Ming, and just read that the entire national team, except Chen Jianghua and Du Feng staying behind in the US to heal their injury, returned to Beijing yesterday.......

Here are photos of Liu Wei, Wang Zhizhi, Yi Jianlian and some other national team members arriving into China at Beijing international airport.

 

if dennis cd is wrong, hell fall flat on his face. Surely if we dont see any info about yao spraining an ankle that would take care of itself. I just think its common courtesy to accept it as some sort of information until that time. it looks childish, to me, to throw in that much emphasis to point out the possibility of this info being false, when it the natural course would have taken care of this anyway. anyways, i feel chilidish now talking on this topic so ill give it up...

 

So how bad is the sprain? And who gives a **** about this other crap?

 

I just thought it would be better if you can be a little bit more specifical, like how you get this information. Nobody would question your credibility if you just share a little bit of how you get to know this. And to say "I will keep my news to myself" is just childish. Nevertheless, please do not take this as a blame.

 

First rule of accurate reporting is...what is your source and can you back it up. Otherwise...you're hanging right there with Peter Vescey.

 

trust me, any insider info thats credible is welcomed on this site. who cares if a couple psychotic fans think they know everything and anything about a certain player. i'll take the word of a rocket employee over a fanatic 99% of the time.

 

Dude, don't be weak. Pryuen has taken more flack for "reporting" something than you have in this thread, and he seems to still stick around and to continue translating and stuff because he thinks it is important. So if you think that reporting stuff like this is important, don't be weak and run away. Reply with, "I know what the pluck I'm talking about and if you don't believe me, you can kiss my Rocket lovin' ass!"

 

Pritikin was a health club that used to be the hot spot for basketball in the 1960 area in the mid 80's. When we didn't feel like driving to Fonde, many prominent northside area players, including this Jelly person who lived across the street in NorthGate Forest at the time, would play ball there. Not as good a run as Fonde but several famous people. Used to get interesting when we played brothers against the others and Jelly's and his little brothers would play against all comers. Oh, Jelly is the nickname we gave the greatest Rocket player in history when he was a freshman in college.

 

yea its really not worth it

 

the objective among us will all know soon enough whether the inside information comes from inside the Rockets or from inside the arse.



*licks finger and tests the air - then turns East*

It's probably about 4:00 am Shanghai time.

*sniffs twice*

Sunrise around 5:00 am and going to be a nice day. Sunshine with highs in the mid eighties with a slight breeze which may taper off around 3:00pm but should pick up again around 9:00pm. Sun won't set until around 7:00 pm which gives us a good 14 hours for someone to spot Yao in the daylight and post something about his slight limp on the web.

I would even bet that we will know whether this is all true or not by noon Shanghai time - where the sun will be at about 80.4 degrees.

Watch out for that fog this morning Yao!

BR,
Brock