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Yao and TMac will never win a championship with...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Amel, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    There is no reason to use Rafer as a scapegoat (or as T-Mac would say, as an "escape goat" :D ).

    It's pretty simple: we will never even sniff the finals as long as Yao and McGrady can't remain fully healthy for an entire season (including the playoffs).

    The supporting cast is definitely an issue, but it's nothing compared to the long-term health of our two superstars, which the entire team was built around.
     
  2. ShadyMcGrady

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    JL3 and V-Span aren't better options than Rafer, and they have more problems than him so more minutes for them wouldn't solve our problem.

    Look at the PG's for the championship teams recently:

    Heat- Wade/JWilliams
    Spurs- Tony Parker
    Pistons- Billups
    etc. etc.

    And for the good teams in the league:

    Dallas- Jason Terry
    Spurs- Parker
    Suns- Nash
    Utah- A-highly-improved-but-not-MVP-candidate Derron Williams

    All those PG's are better than Rafer but as of now we don't have a better option and I actually appreciate Rafer (no matter how boneheaded some of his plays are) for what he does for this team when T-Mac is on the floor and even when he is not. He hit a couple big 3's tonight (1 was too late, but he didn't get the screen from Novak until too late).

    I'm not saying Rafer is the ideal PG for a championship run but we don't have anyone better right now.

    An ideal PG would be one that could hit the open shot, is a good passer/dribbler and plays tough D.

    It takes time for a good PG to form so unless we trade for one we are banking on T-Mac and Yao for a championship. It is extremely vital to have a good PG in the playoffs though, so we are kind of screwed in that sense.

    I'M COOL WITH RAFER THOUGH i'm not saying we can't get anywhere with him but i'm just saying he isn't at the protocol skill level for a championship PG.
     
  3. jeremyang2002

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    How many teams will play 8 man rotation without their 2nd best player,

    4th game on the road trip,

    can still win the game?
     
  4. MacGreat

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    Is there anyone going to argue that we do NOT have the worse backcourt in the league now?
     
  5. steddinotayto

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    Yao and TMac will never win a championship with....

    zero existence of a bench.

    JVG must think that this is the Rockets of 2 years ago where they could log major minutes between 5 players and go on a run. But this team has no Sura, has no Jon Barry and certainly has no Mike James. You don't win if you don't have depth even if we have Yao and McGrady. When you cease to develop any kind of bench, you will get killed in the end. Aside from Wells and Howard, that bench is only producing whatever scraps it gets. I keep preaching the same thing over and over again, but it's the truth.
     
  6. cyangmai

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    jvg will never bring a championship to houston.
    but luckly this season is his last in houston.
    can rudy be back?
     
  7. Rox Addict

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    Great Post... :D
     
  8. Van Gundier

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    Get rid of Rafer and JVG now and we'll win.. because I heard Chauncey Billups is being shopped for crap and Red Auerbach just came back to life and became available.
     
  9. Mordo

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    Yao and TMac will never win a championship with...

    ...TMac sitting on the bench with a bad back.

    It's true. :(
     
  10. ryandoc

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    BRING BACK RUDY!
     
  11. rocketman1979

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    he'll be back! I feel it. And so will Cassell.

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  12. ryandoc

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    NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE HEART OF A CHAMPION!!!
    LOVE THAT QUOTE!
     
  13. MacGreat

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    Look at Yao back then. Now I understand why the naysayers thought he would be broken in half by Shaq.
     
  14. Seven

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    haha. I saw it coming just by reading the title of the thread...We lost a good game get over it. Head and Battier missed crucial shots late in the game, but we shouldn't have been in that position in the first place.

    As for Alston's shot at the end...we lost the game even if he had shot the ball earlier and he did hit some clutch shots at the end. I would love a new point gaurd but Alston is who we have and he's been doing good as of late...For some reason him averaging 20 points for the last three games warrants 20 "I hate Alston threads"
     
  15. Seven

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    Why? lol he looks the same to me. Is it because he's dressed nicely?
     
  16. KGHossman

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    Alston is not the problem. TMac being hurt is the problem. Don't blame alston for the lose. You should look around to other players who need to step, ala shane battier. Battier is a great defender, but he needs to help out on the offensive side of the ball. I'm not knocking his defense, but 1-4 for 2 points is not going to cut it. He played 40 minutes of bball tonite, and managed only 2 pts?? Ime Udoka outplayed battier tonite. Rafer had a great game and people are knocking on him?? What about chuck hayes?? Or Bonzi?? those guys had alot worse game than rafer, and people are still getting on him. Alston made a couple of big 3's down the stretch and he kept us in the game. I'll say it again, it's not rafer's fault that we are losing. Blame the rest of the supporting cast. Get off his ass, and blame guys that haven't stepped up their game.
     
  17. Seven

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    I thought Battier had a good game, although he did everyone for the team but score. He is the best at passing the ball to yao which we need. we need to give him the ball and let him interact with Yao more. He's just not one to force take forced shots, and I am loving how he plays the game.

    Bonzi still isn't the old bonzi, and we all know he needs time to catch up. I still thought he coulda been in shape by now, but he will be eventually. Certainly before playoff time. He has taken the spot of V-span on the rotation as of late, but it'll be well worth it when he starts to perform.

    You can't blame Chuck for anything, because juwan was playing well. You can have one or the other, both won't be on the court unless you want Yao to sit. Also you can't hope for much of an offensive game from Hayes. You can only hope he doesn't hurt you, which he usually doesn't.

    I agree with you that Alston played well tonight. Not only tonight but recently he's been putting up good numbers, however since he's gotten here he hasn't been as much of a creator as he was aquired to be, but is definitely the best ball handler we have. I however am really sick of him jacking up floaters and missing midranged jumpers. Why is it that Yao never passes to rafer when he cuts to the basket? Because he can't make a layup.

    I have to admit, I myself, like other posters in this forum, is bias towards Alston. When Luther's shot get's blocked, I don't feel nearly the pain of when Alston does. When Head jacks up a three, I don't feel nearly the pain as when rafer takes an open one. Maybe this is unfair but I can't change my perception of a player just because he had a few good games.
     
  18. Seven

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    Geezzz
     
  19. stangend77

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    t-mac's back gimpin out!
     
  20. blazer_ben

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    As each loss goes by, it's becoming clear as day that MAC is the heart and soul of this franchise. yao might putup better numbers, but tracy sets our offense and defense up. without tracy and he's underrated leadership ability, were nothing shoprt of a mediacore team.
     

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