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Yao #1 scoring option

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rockets Jones, Nov 21, 2008.

  1. LabMouse

    LabMouse Member

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    Yao has been used for the number 1 scoring option before, it was working well. Right now, he is not 100%, so there is no need for him to do so, but when he is health (if he can), clearly he is the no.1 option, if not, I do not know who would be.
     
  2. mister pc

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    Yao is certainly the number one scoring threat for the Rockets. But he is not a great passer, which is why i dont believe the offense should be run through him.
     
  3. northeastfan

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    You forgot

    7. Catch the ball

    Yao unfortunately isn't the most adept at simply catching a basketball. It is a fundamental skill that most of us take for granted, but Yao just can't do this effectively (whether it is moving his feet to catch to get in position to catch the ball or have the basic co-ordination to catch it, Yao lacks both)

    Probably 5-10% of the time we try to make an entry pass to Yao, it becomes a turnover because Yao can't catch the ball.

    Another 5-10% of the time, Yao gets stripped after getting the ball, but those are probably covered by 2 and 3 above.
     
  4. leebigez

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    RocketJones- During that 15 games, the team was 8-7. Its not really a question of whether yao should shoot more, everyone agrees with that, but like I charted before, its his lack of aggression and recognition as to the low shot atts. Also, we can lay blame to why he doesn't get the ball if he doesn't work hard,quick, and smartly to get the ball. Before Dream had smith and maxwell, he had guys like dirk minnefield and winston garland getting him the ball. Later in his career, he had moochie,francis, and mobley throwing entry passes and we never heard of those guy not being able to get dream the ball. Dream was traded and yao drafted, now those guys can't make entry passes. Here we sit 7 yrs later and we're still talking about guys incapable of making that pass. Now if everyone has been changed except the guy getting the ball, then what does that say?

    I think Adelman is trying to give yao touches without the offense looking so much like a standard low block offense. If guys will move, forcing defenses to keep up with their man, thus allowing yao to get looks without all eyes focused on him. When yao gets the ball in the high post, I would like to see him turn, pivot and face up giving him a look at the action. If his man sags playing the cutter, shoot the 15fter. That's called shot recognition. If the guy closes out on him, he can see over the defense and make a pass to a cutter or just ball reversal. There are shots in the offense that he can get, but if you just send him low post and dump it in, just like jvg did, people would be crying yao is getting banged on and the offense is too predictable. So what is it going to be.
     
  5. Rockets Jones

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    My point has been proven tonight, just re-watch that 4th quarter :cool:
     
  6. cardpire

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    maybe just because it's fresh in my mind, but i'd say yao's dunk in the 4th was probably his most aggressive move of his career. didn't think he had that in him. wish we could see more of it.
     
  7. RocketsHero

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    that is a stretch
     
  8. ekim

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    Yao should demand the ball more in the LOW post... The ball should go to Yao in the low block in every possession JVG style.

    I still don't understand why Yao thinks he can play in the high post... He can't pass, doesn't have good hands to hold on to the ball, and most importantly... low bball IQ. I am still waiting for one productive play this season that comes from Yao being in the high post.
     
  9. durvasa

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    It may be in his top 10. His other 9 probably came against Knicks. :D
     
  10. Tmacfan0115

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    Yao easily should be the #1 option on the team. He's a big guy and he's the most efficient player on the team, not to mention the fact that he has multiple weapons besides scoring like Passing.

    He makes many hockey assists. T-Mac is too inconsistent, Artest shoots a low FG%.

    Yao is the #1 option easily.
     
  11. pewpew

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    well, i totally agree with that yao's turnover would kill us if we r running the offense through yao. but i dont think we are fine with the way RA using yao. YAO MING is only efficient near the basket. this guy doesnt have hakeem's skillz, and putting him at high post is just meaningless. yao has very slow reaction, no good passing skilllz and cant make mid-range shots constantly. whats the point to give up yao's adventages? in this game vs wizard, yao did a good job at 4th qtr just because hes at low post.
     
  12. durvasa

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    If he Yao is being defended like the Wizards defended him in the fourth quarter (skinny defender, no front, single coverage or late double), I totally agree.
     
  13. GMAC

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    ...of the season. I've seen Yao throw down some vicious slams through the years. Like this one:

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    proving my point...you had to bust out the pajama unis to find another example of it. tonight's was just so fluid...shaq-like how he got the ball in the post, dribbled and backed in in one motion and went straight up and threw it down. really caught me off guard and made me feel like there's still plenty of growth and still untapped potential in yao's game. his last bucket in the 4th was aggressive also.

    please let this be a sign of things to come.
     
  15. Tmacfan0115

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    I'm guessing you believe a guy like T-Mac deserves to be a 1st option then?
     
  16. ibm

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    the 4th quarter tonight is a perfect example that works for those who think yao ought to be the #1 offensive option - myself included.

    and why no one has mentioned his 2 handed dunk against malik rose last season? c'mon, yao, one just like that - each night. tomorrow against d. howard you can have 2 or more. :cool:
     
  17. Pest_Ctrl

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    Tmac, when he is healthy and attacking the basket and not settling for jump shots, he deserves to be a 1st option. He will force the defense to collapse and his passing ability is just crazy. Unfortunately we haven't see that Tmac for a long long time, and probably not any time soon.
     
  18. Tmacfan0115

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    No he deserves to have the ball in his hands the most, but the offense should run through Yao.
     
  19. durvasa

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    Not necessarily. In general, I wouldn't say Yao needs to be the first option "easily".
     
  20. deeperblue

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    Of couse I have seen Yao direct offense. The 22 winning streak was an example, Yao did that pretty often in the first part before he injured.

    He is not doing that consistent enough, or often enough, though. That's a problem. But to ask "do you think you never see yao direct an offense", it shows that you are too biased.


     

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