Yankees trying to acquire Wandy Rodriguez at deadline

So now apparently Barmes can be had?

 

I imagine he could have been had prior to August as well. I would not be surprised if Barmes was actually claimed. Slightly above average SS offensively and very good defensively. Contract should be a non-issue with only 5 weeks or so left in the season.

 

Apples to Oranges.

25% of NL teams make the playoffs. 53% of NBA teams make the playoffs. With the same percentage the Astros would have last made the playoffs in 2008 and the Rockets would have not made the playoffs this decade.

You (re)build teams differently in each league. Also, you rebuild differently based on what conference/division you are in.

 

The Rockets were actual contenders though, getting to the 2nd round and pushing the eventual champion Lakers to 7 games. The Astros haven't been legit contenders since 2005.

I agree you rebuild differently, but the Astros waited too long, not the Rockets.

 

If we're talking Wade vs Morey...no contest even if I don't necessarily agree with Morey's approach to acquiring a superstar, the guy is a really good GM. Wade, while not nearly as bad as some has make him out to be, is mediocre at best. His FAgent signings are more miss then hit while crippling at times and his trades are normally good given certain circumstances.

Lets have this debate when Andrew Fieidman takes over...now that would be a fair fight.

 

Not to be stickler for the facts but the Stros were a game away from the playoffs in 2006 and in the playoff race until the last weekend of the 2008 season.

And the Rockets haven't been contenders since 1997...getting to the 1st rd and getting knocked out of the NBA playoffs doesn't make you contenders. Getting to the 2nd rd isn't really contending either but at least they managed to get there for once.

 

Well, we can argue about what "contending" is, but it would have made no sense for the Rockets to rebuild in 2009 when they got to the 2nd round and took the Lakers to 7 games.

The Astros on the other hand, should have started rebuilding far earlier than last year.

 

I hope Friedman takes over.

 

it's funny to me that morey can do all the patchwork he wants to turn a mediocre team into a slightly less mediocre team and he is praised to the high heavens, but when wade does the same, he's bashed for his stupidity and not knowing when the right time to rebuild is.

i don't think he's necessarily a bad gm, but morey has done nothing to get us closer to contending for a championship since he's been here. he has brought in a slew of decent players to keep us hovering in the 6-9 seed spot. pretty much the worst thing you can do as a gm, imo.

 

the rockets are just two seasons removed from yao going doing in a second round series taking the eventual champs to seven games.

not to mention in baseball you don't need a superstar to win

 

and you are satisfied with that being our crowning achievement of the past 15 years? that's piss poor.

 

no we are comparing morey to wade.

 

i'm saying getting into 2nd round one time shouldn't even register as an achievement.

 

morey hasn't been there for fifteen years. he inherited flawed superstars. he's done a good job of surrounding them with decent talent, from the days of rafer/battier/hayes all starting at the same time.

 

Since the playoffs are different among leagues, how about we just look at their regular season records and rankings at those records? This takes out all the bias of different playoff systems as well as different competition in terms of playoff spots?

After all, there is a lot of difference between playing in the NL Central and, say, the AL East.

 

What did Wade inherit? (note that I am not arguing that Wade is a better GM, but if you are talking inheritance, it's no contest that Wade walked into a worse situation).

 

I like my teams competitive, maybe the Rockets won't win a title anytime soon with their current gameplan but at least they're not cellar dwellers like the Astros, who are the butt of jokes in general sports talk. And who knows if being cellar dwellers will amount to anything in the future. They could be cellar dwellers for the next decade.

 

Wade inherited Berkman, Ozwalt in their prime.

 

berkman, lee, pence

wandy, roy, lidge,

not too bad

 

And Yao and McGrady weren't in their prime when Morey took over?